A Serious Question For Theists

[Mr Greene]

I chose to believe on God.. and since be a muslim.. as I believe its the last religion.. where I also believe on Christianity and Judaism and all the prophets and old books.. BUT.. would that make any evidence to you?!

I used to invite people to Islam.. out of love ! You know when you feel that you know something great and want everyone to know about it? Or found the cure for something and wish that everyone can be cured ? That's why I used to invite people to Islam.. BUT then I realized that when someone wants to see the truth and seek it they will sooner or later.. but in their own ways.

I may talk and talk about Islam and provide evidences in many fields but still don't convince this person ! while a small experience like visiting a muslim country or listening to quran or etc.. make big influence on him!

But may I know .. why are curious about us believing on the existence of God?

So why Islam and not Sikhism?

[Eye of God]

You are less than a sniveling little brat, you are the one who ruins most of the arguments that take place here, it was a sad day when you were born. It always has to be your way or it's wrong, moma raised a brat of the grosses kind, I hope she's proud of something less than human. I have more respect for worms and value them more than I would ever value you. 

In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry. Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."  (Ephesians 4:26, 29 31-32)

A wise man restrains his anger and overlooks insults.  This is too his credit." (Proverbs 19:11, LB)

Surprised at you GC!

This was written by the Apostle Paul to the church in Ephesus. It is meant as wonderful guideline in life and a way to live happily with ones neighbors and fellow believers. It is not meant to restrict a Christian from ever showing anger towards an ignorant thought or person. Jesus became angry without sin. Perhaps you should learn the Bible before spouting off like an idiot.

[The Grand Nudger]

If that was it's purpose, it could easily be imagined how constantly avoiding conflict would make for a much unhappier and shittier existence than confronting ones problems would, head on so to speak. I don't think that this is a very useful guideline at all.

Don't get me wrong, I understand coddling an idiot....but somebody has top just stand up and say "Hey idiot, stop fucking up the machine....you're doing it wrong because you're an idiot....it's not your fault....I'd explain it to you again, help you again...but it won't matter.....because you're an idiot" don't you think?

[Eye of God]

If that was it's purpose, it could easily be imagined how constantly avoiding conflict would make for a much unhappier and shittier existence than confronting ones problems would, head on so to speak. I don't think that this is a very useful guideline at all.

The lack of aggression is always useful. I think you're twisting my words/the words of Paul in order to make your point.

[The Grand Nudger]

But isn't that the point? For a guideline to be useful it ought to be difficult to "twist it" to imagine a scenario in which the guideline was counterproductive. Especially if that scenario crops up with regularity...like idiots do. Eh? The lack of aggression is most definitely not always useful either, hooah. In fact, when aggression is the best tool for the job it is very effectively used in a swift, decisive, and insurmountable way. Shock and awe. Make em put their heads down and stay down - on a dime. Overwhelming weight of payload, sustained covering fire..etc When you call for artillery, you don't want the guy with the pistol showing up asking where to fire...you want the big guns, aggression.

[Jacob(smooth)]

In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry. Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."  (Ephesians 4:26, 29 31-32)

A wise man restrains his anger and overlooks insults.  This is too his credit." (Proverbs 19:11, LB)

Surprised at you GC!

This was written by the Apostle Paul to the church in Ephesus. It is meant as wonderful guideline in life and a way to live happily with ones neighbors and fellow believers. It is not meant to restrict a Christian from ever showing anger towards an ignorant thought or person. Jesus became angry without sin. Perhaps you should learn the Bible before spouting off like an idiot.

Spouting off? Lol. I'm merely quoting the word of God brother. If you don't like it, take it up with the author! Paul's exhortation fits rather well with proverbs:-

"A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control."

Did it look to you like GC was giving vent to his anger or keeping it under control?

And indeed the sermon on the mount...

"You have heard that it was said to our people long ago, ‘You must not murder anyone.[a] Anyone who murders another will be judged.’22 But I tell you, if you are angry with a brother or sister,[b] you will be judged. If you say bad things to a brother or sister, you will be judged by the council. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell.

REPENT!! I don't want to see you burn in hell!

[John V]

You are less than a sniveling little brat, you are the one who ruins most of the arguments that take place here, it was a sad day when you were born. It always has to be your way or it's wrong, moma raised a brat of the grosses kind, I hope she's proud of something less than human. I have more respect for worms and value them more than I would ever value you. I guess you're getting what you wanted all along to ban me well go ahead I couldn't care less, at least I want have to put up with your arrogant self serving snotty nosed cry baby crap.

Godschild

Might be a little over the top, but I have to agree with the bolded part. Exlax accuses everyone else of logical fallacies which he commits on a regular basis himself.

[The Grand Nudger]

hehehe, appeals to hypocrisy :claps:

Whether or not a person uses logic or is internally consistent with it's use (or with itself) would not weaken or strengthen the position that one should use logic (or shouldn't), or should avoid logical fallacies (or shouldn't). So, all we have is a case of someone committing the odd error of thought (we all do it) while warning others not to commit errors of thought. It's good advice, regardless of the messenger.

[Jacob(smooth)]

You are less than a sniveling little brat, you are the one who ruins most of the arguments that take place here, it was a sad day when you were born. It always has to be your way or it's wrong, moma raised a brat of the grosses kind, I hope she's proud of something less than human. I have more respect for worms and value them more than I would ever value you. I guess you're getting what you wanted all along to ban me well go ahead I couldn't care less, at least I want have to put up with your arrogant self serving snotty nosed cry baby crap.

Godschild

Might be a little over the top, but I have to agree with the bolded part. Exlax accuses everyone else of logical fallacies which he commits on a regular basis himself.

Seriously?! "A little over the top?!"

Lets see how partisan we're going to be here. AM, you tell me if you think GC's comment above is in line with the scriptures I offered and I'll tell you if I think esquilax is guilty of a logical fallacy (you'll have to find one).

[Bad Wolf]

Might be a little over the top, but I have to agree with the bolded part. Exlax accuses everyone else of logical fallacies which he commits on a regular basis himself.

I would love for you to show us some examples of these fallacies.