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Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 1:06 pm
This is an imagined discussion between Wael and Tom:
Tom: Do you love sex?
Wael: I love sex of course. I am a human being. I have my instincts and feelings. Sex is a pleasure and sex is the way to get children. But I am Muslim. Sex is not allowed outside marriage. I am allowed to marry four women provided that I treat them equally. If I am afraid that I will not treat them equally, I must marry one woman only.
More important, in the Dayafter, we will have many amazingly beautiful wives. The Paradise is not only a spiritual Paradise, but the materialistic pleasures are innumerable there. We will enjoy delicious food, drinks, sex....etc
Tom: Why don't a woman marry four men?
Wael: If she has a child, who will be the father?
Tom: In the Paradise, a man will have many wives, but a woman will have only one husband.
Wael: A man will have the sexual power of hundred men. Thus a woman will amazingly enjoy sex.Besides, a woman will not hate other wives because in the Paradise, there is no grief, no depression, no bad feelings.
Tom: Why isn't sex allowed outside marriage?
Wael: In western countries, if you love a woman and have sex with her, you are lovers. You are not married, but if you have sex with another woman, you will be considered unfaithful. In Islam, if you have sex with a woman other than your wife, you are unfaithful and it is forbidden.
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Is there some point you are trying to make?
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I guess there is, but I just can't figure out what.
Like this part:
Quote:Tom: Why don't a woman marry four men?
Wael: If she has a child, who will be the father?
Does that matter? It is her child.
Quote:Tom: Why isn't sex allowed outside marriage?
Wael: In western countries, if you love a woman and have sex with her, you are lovers. You are not married, but if you have sex with another woman, you will be considered unfaithful. In Islam, if you have sex with a woman other than your wife, you are unfaithful and it is forbidden.
And that is better somehow?
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 2:26 pm
The point is that religion tells you what to do, how to behave and what to think for fear of eternal punishment if you don't. The Ultimate Dictatorship!
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Quote:A man will have the sexual power of hundred men.
He better warn his wives then because he is probably going to break their pelvises!
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 2:50 pm
(January 9, 2010 at 2:25 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Quote:Tom: Why don't a woman marry four men?
Wael: If she has a child, who will be the father?
Does that matter? It is her child. Even so, now with DNA testing we can determine who the father is!
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Hey, science has solved another problem posed by religion!
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm
But it's not a valid question anyway. She has 4 husbands, what does it matter who the biological father is?
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 3:37 pm
The guy isn't even worth debating as he is not interrested in debating.
His post is again, as nearly all of his previous posts, a direct copy-paste of one of his own essays.
You can find the same little story on a dozen websites and forums with a quick google search.
He's just a troll.
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RE: Sex In Islam
January 9, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Wael El-Manzalawy Wrote:Tom: Do you love sex?
Wael: I love sex of course. I am a human being. I have my instincts and feelings. Sex is a pleasure and sex is the way to get children. But I am Muslim. Sex is not allowed outside marriage. I am allowed to marry four women provided that I treat them equally. If I am afraid that I will not treat them equally, I must marry one woman only.
More important, in the Dayafter, we will have many amazingly beautiful wives. The Paradise is not only a spiritual Paradise, but the materialistic pleasures are innumerable there. We will enjoy delicious food, drinks, sex....etc From having pets most of my life... i recognize that it is impossible to consider all of the pets a person keeps equally. A person will inevitably grow more attached to a few of them, and less attached to others. And that's just pets... how could a person possibly treat such a complex thing as another person as the equal of three other people as close as lovers?
Are women not allowed to marry four men, provided they treat them 'equally'? What do beautiful wives matter (it says nothing of the wife's non-aesthetics)? The 'spiritual' is a spacial quality as you consider it?
Quote:Tom: Why don't a woman marry four men?
Wael: If she has a child, who will be the father?
Who cares? But this has already been answered by others, there is little to add to their points.
Quote:Tom: In the Paradise, a man will have many wives, but a woman will have only one husband.
Wael: A man will have the sexual power of hundred men. Thus a woman will amazingly enjoy sex.Besides, a woman will not hate other wives because in the Paradise, there is no grief, no depression, no bad feelings.
Grief, depression, and 'bad feelings' are a part of who we are... it would be terrible to live without them. In any case... why should a woman not want to have several men if 'a man will have the sexual power of a hundred men'...? And what is 'sexual power' to begin with?
'Thus a woman will amazingly(?) enjoy sex'? What do you mean by that?
Quote:Tom: Why isn't sex allowed outside marriage?
Wael: In western countries, if you love a woman and have sex with her, you are lovers. You are not married, but if you have sex with another woman, you will be considered unfaithful. In Islam, if you have sex with a woman other than your wife, you are unfaithful and it is forbidden.
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I fail to see the point behind the last quote...??? Perhaps you can explain what point you mean to make?
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