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should america support Israel?
RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 9:01 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 7, 2014 at 4:49 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Sure, when you can no longer defend your position, resort to ad hominem. Yep, that's really creative. SNORK...

So, exactly how many millions would you like killed? One? Two? Three?

How ever many Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, and other Islamic terrorist groups there actually are would be fine with me. All of them, preferably.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 10:25 am)A Theist Wrote:
(August 8, 2014 at 9:01 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So, exactly how many millions would you like killed? One? Two? Three?

How ever many Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, and other Islamic terrorist groups there actually are would be fine with me. All of them, preferably.

If you read his original proposition, he wasn't limiting the killing to terrorists, but rather, to the general population of Palestinians.

Yes, you read right: an Israeli supporter advocating for mass murder.

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RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 10:27 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 8, 2014 at 10:25 am)A Theist Wrote: How ever many Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, and other Islamic terrorist groups there actually are would be fine with me. All of them, preferably.

If you read his original proposition, he wasn't limiting the killing to terrorists, but rather, to the general population of Palestinians.

Yes, you read right: an Israeli supporter advocating for mass murder.

I think, to me, his posts sounded more like that Israel isn't left with many options at this point. The Palestinians support the terrorist group, Hamas. They allow Hamas to headquarter in their neighborhoods and to launch missile strikes into Israel from populated areas. The Palestianians act as willing human shields for Hamas, and they give sanctuary to Hamas. So how many Israelis would you like to see killed by the Palestinian supported terrorist group, Hamas?
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 9:01 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 7, 2014 at 4:49 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Sure, when you can no longer defend your position, resort to ad hominem. Yep, that's really creative. SNORK...

Considering the fact that you won't own your deliberate misstatements of my position, and your insistent refusal to read what has been written; considering your attachment to the excluded-middle fallacy; and considering your tone throughout this conversation, I don't consider myself obliged to show you much courtesy.

This is not a matter of not beoing able to defend my position. This is a matter of you refusing to see any points other than your own.

Of course, you won't own that, either.

So, exactly how many millions would you like killed? One? Two? Three?

Since your English is so great, which part (post #158) of "bomb Gaza until the Palestinians wave the white flag and surrender unconditionally," don't you understand?
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RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 10:45 am)A Theist Wrote:
(August 8, 2014 at 10:27 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: If you read his original proposition, he wasn't limiting the killing to terrorists, but rather, to the general population of Palestinians.

Yes, you read right: an Israeli supporter advocating for mass murder.

I think, to me, his posts sounded more like that Israel isn't left with many options at this point. The Palestinians support the terrorist group, Hamas. They allow Hamas to headquarter in their neighborhoods and to launch missile strikes into Israel from populated areas. The Palestianians act as willing human shields for Hamas, and they give sanctuary to Hamas. So how many Israelis would you like to see killed by the Palestinian supported terrorist group, Hamas?

No options other than massive bombing causing one millions deaths?

What a paucity of imagination we have here.

As for how many Israelis I'd like to see Hamas kill, that would be zero. Probably why I haven't advocated for it, y'know?

(August 8, 2014 at 10:46 am)little_monkey Wrote: Since your English is so great, which part (post #158) of "bomb Gaza until the Palestinians wave the white flag and surrender unconditionally," don't you understand?

Conveniently ignoring your own advocacy for mass murder in another post.

Can't say I blame you, I've uttered stupid words and wished I could call them back, at times.

Also, I notice you never have addressed my point about unconditional surrender from Palestinians being the only chance for peace. Since you're going to bring up this post of yours, reply to my point ... or continue to evade it.

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RE: should america support Israel?
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(August 8, 2014 at 10:53 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: [quote='little_monkey' pid='726476' dateline='1407509194']
Since your English is so great, which part (post #158) of "bomb Gaza until the Palestinians wave the white flag and surrender unconditionally," don't you understand?

Conveniently ignoring your own advocacy for mass murder in another post.

I'm not shying from anything. Just reiterating my point, which is about Gaza and the Palestinians declaration of war since 1948 that continues up to this day, and the best option, the only option in my estimation, is to bomb the area until the enemy surrenders unconditionally. And yes, I further added that if that means killing a million, so be it. I would hope that Palestinians, at least a good number of them, are smart enough, and will get the message, and not only will comply but will eliminate those who insist on continuing this senseless war.

Quote:Can't say I blame you, I've uttered stupid words and wished I could call them back, at times.

It's stupid to you as you're not smart enough to understand. It's your problem. Deal with it.

Quote:Also, I notice you never have addressed my point about unconditional surrender from Palestinians being the only chance for peace. Since you're going to bring up this post of yours, reply to my point ... or continue to evade it.

Your point clearly indicated to me that you do not consider the Palestinians smart enough. You didn't use those words but you clearly, unconsciously implied that. You rejected that interpretation, but you haven't convinced me one bit. Your point is Palestinians are backward, they are divided along tribal line, blah, blah, blah... they will fight to the last one. I'm saying: let's see, bomb them. I'm pretty sure along the 5th or 6th day of massive bombings they will wave the white flag.
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RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 10:53 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 8, 2014 at 10:45 am)A Theist Wrote: I think, to me, his posts sounded more like that Israel isn't left with many options at this point. The Palestinians support the terrorist group, Hamas. They allow Hamas to headquarter in their neighborhoods and to launch missile strikes into Israel from populated areas. The Palestianians act as willing human shields for Hamas, and they give sanctuary to Hamas. So how many Israelis would you like to see killed by the Palestinian supported terrorist group, Hamas?

No options other than massive bombing causing one millions deaths?

What a paucity of imagination we have here.

As for how many Israelis I'd like to see Hamas kill, that would be zero. Probably why I haven't advocated for it, y'know?



Quote:No options other than massive bombing causing one millions deaths?

What a paucity of imagination we have here.
Oh. Are we at a million deaths now since the war between Hamas and Israel broke out?

Quite the stretch you have going on here.


Quote:As for how many Israelis I'd like to see Hamas kill, that would be zero.

I'm glad you feel that way. Israel agrees with you. That's why they're bombing Hamas targets, to prevent as many Israeli deaths as possible.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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RE: should america support Israel?
Every time the U.S. touches the Middle East, it makes things worse. It's time to walk away and not look back.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/20...8Manual%29
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RE: should america support Israel?
I think Little Monkey should change name to mushroom.
Kept in the dark and fed bullshit.
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RE: should america support Israel?
(August 8, 2014 at 5:32 pm)Oldm8 Wrote: I think Little Monkey should change name to mushroom.
Kept in the dark and fed bullshit.

Is that the best you can do?

How about putting out your views so that everyone can examine them?

Or are you just a fucking coward?
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