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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:19 pm
(July 6, 2014 at 7:06 pm)Luckie Wrote: (July 6, 2014 at 6:41 pm)Little lunch Wrote: Asking strangers online for money could just be last resort also.
It's easy to get defensive when offered advice whilst being looked down upon.
At least, it would be easy to take it that way even if wasn't intentional, especially if your looking up from the inside of a hole.
No offence to anyone at all. I know this could be a scam, but if not, sympathy costs nothing and the opposite could cause real damage.
On the other hand, perhaps being stern is needed to dissuade people from asking for money here, which is ultimately undesirable.
If Ami521 is real, I'd prefer she didn't end up feeling worse then if she'd never come here, that's all. :-)
I have no sympathy for apathy. Its the reason they are where they are. But I do care or I wouldn't say anything. I told her I had been where she was, she should listen. You treat the cause not the symptom. Self defeatests need someone to piss them off enough to do something for themselves.
How do you really expect me to get the money to requalify for financial aid so I can go back to school in less than 2 months, or even in 6 months if I skip another semester? The part-time minimum wage work I have gotten has only helped me buy enough to do my laundry or the occasional motel stay so I can take a real shower. I need to be back in school. Otherwise I'll be living like this for the rest of my life. I won't even be able to have a minimum wage job that isn't under the table because 15% of it will be garnished for student loans that I will never be able to pay back.
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July 6, 2014 at 7:26 pm
You're stuck in a loop of money-need . They call that capitalism; to make money, you need capital money.
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(July 6, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Ami529 Wrote: (July 6, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Luckie Wrote: Yeah uh I have been homeless several times (pretty sure I said that). No one knew I was, because I took a shower every day and gave out an old address. Couldn't even get a few miles to the store to get my food stamps so I was hungry too, and lost my baby. Still I worked until I couldn't lift myself off the floor. I was on the verge of being homeless this month, if it weren't for the kindness of my mum.
Autism IS on the list of disabilities and since you can't seem to take care of yourself you DO qualify so don't give me that crock. I know when you're depressed everything seems like a mountain so I suggest you just push on through and do....something. I can't believe its beenhow long and you don't have a car battery?????????? I mean, what is it exactly that you would say you do do, each day?
According to your picture you look like a young woman. You're lucky. People are more apt to allow young women into their homes as opposed to scruffy men.
I find it oh so hard to believe people when they say they can't find work. Work is out there, you just have to be willing to work (1) , and ask for work (2).
Yeah why can't you get financial aid for school then? Asking strangers online for money IS asking for free money. You even complained that the church received tithe on your behalf (free money) but you never saw a cent.
I lost my financial aid. One of the reasons I need so much is so I can get it back and get back in school. When I applied for SSI I had to visit their doctor. Although I had a lifelong medical history of my autism, they still have their doctor test your functionality. I was told because of my level of functionality and my lack of history of paying into SSI with taxes, that I did not qualify for assistance.
You don't need a lawyer to file for SSDI
What I'm saying is that you've done what you needed to do to qualify for ssdi if you indeed do have a diagnosis of autism and depression. I'm assuming that you're ill enough to qualify because of your situation. Its either that --or you're inept, which I highly doubt. How are you treating your depression? Drugs or alcohol are the main go to for most.
Show the church that you have a plan and you're willing to work. Ask for a few more months in the lot, and offer tutoring services or something since you're smart.. They're your biggest lead for a job at the moment. I highly doubt thieir pride would allow a homeless person to stay there this long without offering you work and help. Otherwise it would be an embarrassment.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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Quote:Some people deserve hell.
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2014 at 7:30 pm by Losty.)
1) where do you live?
2) there are several options with student loans. It is very simple to have a hold placed on your loans due to lack of sufficiente income. Just google your options with that.
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2014 at 7:37 pm by Ami529.)
And when I was talking about my situation on a facebook page for people with autism, I got this:
With 2-3 years left on the planet, there is no hope to finish college, otherwise, I would have gotten a degree in Biblical Counseling. Jesus is coming in 2017 in September because that is the year of Jubilee. He is our Jubilee and He can set us free from eternal death. Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world (You, my dear), that he gave his only begotten Son (Yeshua/Jesus), that whosoever believeth (support) in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
All you have to do is have Faith by supporting Him and following Him with all you have to give.
I was told not to even bother finishing college and to focus on worshiping Jesus because he's coming back in 2017. The problem is, that is a response I expect. I haven't even been addressing religious people, but they come out of the woodwork all the time to say this kind of stuff to me. Giving up is a lot easier for me than asking for money but I was encouraged to try asking for help. The fundraising site I am using has examples of people raising tens of thousands of dollars for things like fertility treatments or homeless dogs and I'm a homeless person who just wants to go back to school and hopefully become a teacher.
If I would have done this at the end of last year, I could have just used it to get a new car battery and I would still be in school. But I didn't. Because I'm not good at asking for anything. I tried to do it all by myself and it fell apart completely and I all I want is to be back in school. I've worked so hard these last 3 years and I am 3 semesters away from a Bachelor's in Mathematics. I don't want *THIS* to be the rest of my life. It isn't a life at all. My alternative is to not finish school, and try to stay with my parents in New Jersey working for minimum wage the rest of my life with my pay garnished by 15% because of student loans I can never pay back.
(July 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Losty Wrote: 1) where do you live?
2) there are several options with student loans. It is very simple to have a hold placed on your loans due to lack of sufficiente income. Just google your options with that.
I just did a deferment, and I can do that for a while, but that doesn't requalify me for financial aid. The grace period of how long I can be out of school has passed.
(July 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Luckie Wrote: (July 6, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Ami529 Wrote: I lost my financial aid. One of the reasons I need so much is so I can get it back and get back in school. When I applied for SSI I had to visit their doctor. Although I had a lifelong medical history of my autism, they still have their doctor test your functionality. I was told because of my level of functionality and my lack of history of paying into SSI with taxes, that I did not qualify for assistance.
You don't need a lawyer to file for SSDI
What I'm saying is that you've done what you needed to do to qualify for ssdi if you indeed do have a diagnosis of autism and depression. I'm assuming that you're ill enough to qualify because of your situation. Its either that --or you're inept, which I highly doubt. How are you treating your depression? Drugs or alcohol are the main go to for most.
Show the church that you have a plan and you're willing to work. Ask for a few more months in the lot, and offer tutoring services or something since you're smart.. They're your biggest lead for a job at the moment. I highly doubt thieir pride would allow a homeless person to stay there this long without offering you work and help. Otherwise it would be an embarrassment.
No, I couldn't afford alcohol and drugs even if I was into that. And the church already knows all about my efforts since November 2013 because I've been there since then. The want my ugly little green house on wheels out of their parking lot. People are complaining. And I tried to qualify for SSI over a year ago. I didn't qualify. *THEIR* doctor felt I was just fine and didn't need the assistance, and the woman that informed me said I didn't pay enough taxes over my lifetime to get anything. I'm not an expert on it. That's just what I was told. When I tried calling those lawyers that deal with social security, they said they just deal with Social Security which I am ineligible to apply for. They do not deal with SSI and said that they don't know anyone who does. You either qualify or you don't.
Regardless. SSI doesn't get me back in school. It doesn't requalify for me financial aid. If I had financial aid, I'd just be fundraising $100 for a new battery.
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm
Oh you have parents. Go back home.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:44 pm
(July 6, 2014 at 7:16 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: (July 6, 2014 at 7:06 pm)Luckie Wrote: I have no sympathy for apathy. Its the reason they are where they are. But I do care or I wouldn't say anything. I told her I had been where she was, she should listen. You treat the cause not the symptom. Self defeatests need someone to piss them off enough to do something for themselves.
Even if you have been where she was, you shouldn't be mean to her .
If she is for real, then she's in tough times . Be nice .
I'm not being mean I'm having a constructive come to Jesus talk with her cuz she obviously needs it. I am asking the real questions that might help her get out of the dead end maze she has made in her mind.
Feel free to pat her on the back, but its not going to help.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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July 6, 2014 at 7:45 pm
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Move in with your parents and go back to school. Get a job to pay student loans. Get a second job to pay current tuition. Work your ass off, sleep when you get the chance to. Do what you have to do. Life is hard but you can do it if you really want to.
I have a hard time understanding why you wouldn't qualify for ssdi since you have autism and depression.
I'm just saying, I'd feel a lot more comfortable donating money to fix your car if you were living with your parents, getting into a school, working your butt off etc etc etc. than if you're living in a car outside a church thinking you're incapable of helping yourself. I'm not insensitive or uncaring. I really do care, but I just want you to know that you really can help yourself. You just have to take opportunities that you don't like sometimes.
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 7:51 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2014 at 7:54 pm by Ami529.)
(July 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Luckie Wrote: Oh you have parents. Go back home.
In New Jersey.
- Many of my credits won't even transfer. Different board.
- Out-of-state tuition is about four-times the cost. I was in a bad, controlling relationship which put me in Tennessee and this is where I started school.
If that were an option, I don't think I'd be homeless, although there's been a lot of issues because of medical expenses I owe that they have in their name. They were able to send me a little money a couple of times but they live off my dad's social security in a one bedroom apartment. It would be better than this, but it isn't even an option. If I want to finish school, I have to stay here, and that's what the fundraiser is about. It isn't about not living in my car. I can study just fine in my car, I don't need anything fancy. I just need to be back in school. It's my whole future.
(July 6, 2014 at 7:45 pm)Losty Wrote: Move in with your parents and go back to school. Get a job to pay student loans. Get a second job to pay current tuition. Work your ass off, sleep when you get the chance to. Do what you have to do. Life is hard but you can do it if you really want to.
I have a hard time understanding why you wouldn't qualify for ssdi since you have autism and depression.
I'm just saying, I'd feel a lot more comfortable donating money to fix your car if you were living with your parents, getting into a school, working your butt off etc etc etc. than if you're living in a car outside a church thinking you're incapable of helping yourself. I'm not insensitive or uncaring. I really do care, but I just want you to know that you really can help yourself. You just have to take opportunities that you don't like sometimes.
Saving up enough to requalify or even to pay out of pocket would take so long, I'd lose the credits I already earned. Giving up over $50,000 of education just to start all over... I wanted to graduate in a couple of years, but what you are suggesting wouldn't allow me to graduate for another 10-15 years...
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RE: Living in My car In a Church Parking Lot...
July 6, 2014 at 8:11 pm
SSDI is not SSI.
SSDI is permanent disability, which you have. You should be on it anyways, so you can have health insurance and treat your conditions. You can work and go to school (there's work programs available) and they don't pay you equal to that which you make, but they make sure you make appx 900$/mo.
Yes it CAN help you get back into school. It can also get you treatment for depression, get you financial aid and grants, qualify you for section 8 (which admittedly has a 2-3yr waiting list), and free prescriptions.
I believe you have only looked into these things enough to think you can't. To be fair govt assist programs do everything they can to make u think u don't qualify. Just apply.
having your credits not transfer? That's bull.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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