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Abortion/Consciousness/Life
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 (October 4, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Losty Wrote: No no no. Let me explain what I was saying. If it isn't illegal, then it isn't murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. Something that isn't illegal cannot be unlawful. I didn't comment on whether it was right or wrong. Correct. And that is dependent on what the law defines as a person.
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Didn't say you had one Losty, I was just speaking hypothetically
 So yeah don't have kids just because someone else says so.
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 (October 4, 2014 at 10:54 pm)Chas Wrote:(October 4, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Losty Wrote: No no no. Let me explain what I was saying. If it isn't illegal, then it isn't murder. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person. Something that isn't illegal cannot be unlawful. I didn't comment on whether it was right or wrong. No it isn't. If you walk into my house by accident thinking your friend still lives here. You are an innocent person and it still isn't illegal for me to shoot you in the head. RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life
October 4, 2014 at 11:03 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2014 at 11:09 pm by Dystopia.)
(October 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm)Losty Wrote:(October 4, 2014 at 10:54 pm)Chas Wrote: Correct. And that is dependent on what the law defines as a person. Of course it is, I hope!... At least here it is, you can only use bruter force if it's appropriate, and in that case, it isn't... From a purely legal standpoint I have to agree with Chas here, by obligation - The right to live is above all other rights in the vast majority of conflicts - I'm not taking a position, just stating a fact - At least in my constitution it says the right to live is supreme and above all else (indirectly) - And that's the main reason the death penalty is illegal, btw. This is the legal exposition most States chose, the right to live and human dignity are always at the top - From a pure legal standpoint bodily autonomy is important but it is not as much as it surpasses the right to live, because without the right to live you can't have bodily autonomy, since you don't exist. I could discuss this being wrong, but from a simple look at the facts it's undeniable that hierarchically the right to live is usually (not always) number one.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
(October 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm)Losty Wrote:(October 4, 2014 at 10:54 pm)Chas Wrote: Correct. And that is dependent on what the law defines as a person. If what walks into your house isn't a person, then there isn't even a question, is there? I didn't say "solely dependent".
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