Examples of the atrocities caused by non Muslims

[Esquilax]

Esquilax

Why don't we remove nationalism along with it ?
Obviously it caused WW1 & WW2,people in millions attacking other people in millions too for a peace of flag..

I'm not a fan of aggressive, mindless nationalism either. But the existence of a second thing that causes needless deaths doesn't mean the needless deaths attributed to your thing suddenly vanish, nor does it mean that the world would only benefit from having one disappear. You seem to be leaning on the tu quoque fallacy very hard here, but the bad behavior of others isn't even connected to the bad behavior of islam.

[Tonus]

Those "devoted people" you talk about are not devoted to god ; they are devoted to "CULTS" and "SECTS" which are mainly led by a big beard fella who plays the prophet's role & pour all kind of weird stuff without even quoting probably from the Quran.

My point is that the phenomena is no different from any other form of human tribalism. Many people are nationalistic: only a few take it to a fanatical extreme. Many are proud of their race or ethnicity, but only a few take it to an extreme. Many people are fans of local sports teams, but only... you get the picture.

And many people are religious, but only a few take it to a fanatical extreme. In other words, religion is just another way that humans use to form like-minded social groups where they can feel protected and also which they can use to look down on those who do not belong. It is this natural us/them approach which leads the most fanatical members of the group to take extreme action, up to and including hurting or killing others.

One could reasonably expect that a form of tribalism specifically endorsed by the supreme being who created everything (including the human psyche that leads to the behavior described) would stand apart from all of the other forms. Specifically, that it would be superior and push humanity forward and upward. But it doesn't. Like any other form of tribalism, it brings small groups together and turns them against other groups. Few religions --if any!-- can even prevent fractures within the group! To me, that doesn't point to something that is from god.

[Thumpalumpacus]

That would appear to be wrong based on demographics alone Polaris. Take your atheists in one hand - and all your hindus and christians and muslims and, well....you probably get the point already. From that pov, it's kind of unsurprising that atrocities have been committed by the faithful, or in the name of the faith. There are alot of you - and have been...for quite some time.

Before the 20th century, the religious had killed more people (as much as 20 million over the course of ten thousand years). The 20th century saw that more than equaled by the actions of non-believers.

The vast majority of the German population in the 1940s was Christian. Not only did they staff the death camps and the crematoria, they turned their heads away and acquiesced even when they weren't directly involved, pretending they didn't smell the smells, or see the 40x8s roll out of town loaded with Jews, or didn't see the invoices for tons of Zyklon-B.

So much for religion giving us morality, eh?

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Thumpalumpacus

Some ?
Non muslims demolished two cities from the face of earth using atomic weapons, and waged two world wars that crippled the whole world.

Any weapon of mass destruction nowadays was invented by non muslims, every chemical weapon was invented and used by non muslims.

"some"..indeed.

I'm thinking your sarcasm detector is on the blink.

[CapnAwesome]

Hello.

I have found a topic in the Islamic section, about the atrocities committed by Islam.
So I wanted to bring up atrocities committed by non Muslims.

1) German Children raped and killed in WW2 by red army liberators
http://www.bestgore.com/murder/photos-ge...tors-jews/

2) American non muslim soldiers blowing up a dog in Iraq, not minding civilians who might get blown up
http://www.bestgore.com/murder/american-...-dog-iraq/

3) Drug gangs behead people in Mexico - no muslims are there-
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/chains...ed-mexico/

4) Mexican gang war executions
http://www.bestgore.com/latin-american-w...ion-video/

5) Serial killers -not muslims- in the states, raping and killing FEMALE VICTIMS ONLY
http://www.bestgore.com/murder/operation...harles-ng/

The list is bigger than this. I only used one website.

There are other disgusting atrocities, in millions, all committed by non Muslims.
But the media always keep the scope on Muslims.

So fair.

Thanks for reading.

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British non Muslim terrorists invent chemical weapons and distribute them to their non Muslim american allies to use against Vietnamese non Muslim civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_orange

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Mister Agenda]

Mister Agenda

Hey you didn't change your profile picture since the last time I saw you ^_^

A superhero must be easily recognizable.

Mister Agenda
I'm in awe of your mastery of the language of passive agressive.

So when I become humorous I get accused of having a personality disorder ?

You didn't become humorous, although you may have attempted to becoms so. For you have become humorous, it would have to have been funny.

Saying you're expressing yourself passive aggressively is not the same thing as saying you have passive aggressive personality disorder. If you have a personality disorder, my guess would be histrionic. If everyone who ever displayed passive aggressive behavior had passive aggressive personality disorder, we'd all have it. You're doing it again here: expressing aggression indirectly by overdramatically posing as someone terribly, terribly wronged by an internet comment about a post you made.

It's always the case in your eyes eh ? we muslims are either extremist terrorists, or psychologically disturbed people who aren't good or humorous but we are so sick we hide that within all the time.

My comment had nothing to do with you being a Muslim and everything to do with you acting like an asshole.

Islamophobia states to never trust a Muslim. Thank you for practicing it.

Common sense says never trust someone who concludes 'Islamophobia' from a comment about them making passive aggressive posts.

My god is witness that deep inside I only meant to joke around.
Go ahead rule me as a psychopath, only god can judge me.

The more you carry on, the harder it is to rule out some kind of disorder. Are you aware that flipping your lid over an accusation of passive aggressiveness about a post where you said:

"Hello, I think I remember you, what I totally like about you is your pure honesty in displaying your hatred towards Islam & me. You hate my guts, so I'm sorry that I exist."

makes you sound like a loon who can't take the slightest criticism without over-reacting? And if you were trying to be funny, that's nothing to be proud of either, because it wasn't funny at all. It's not our fault when you try to be funny and fail miserably.

What I wonder now though, is if you'll rant about how Islamophobic it is to not find your remarks funny?

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Non-Muslims commit atrocities. Therefore, Muslim atrocities aren't a big deal.

That doesn't seem to follow, nor does it seem to be implied.

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Exactly.
Committing atrocities is a human thing. Not "Islam" thing.

That being said, we could reduce the number of atrocities if Islam never existed. We wouldn't have, say, people killing other people to further the cultural supremacy of a religion that doesn't exist, after all. To say that other people commit crimes and such isn't a controversial statement, but to then go on and say that therefore Islam has nothing to do with certain crimes committed in the name of Islam is to go too far. You'd be wrong.

If Islam hadn't been invented, the odds are that the Middle East would be dominated by the Orthodox Catholic Church, and we would be having most of the same problems, because Orthodox Middle Eastern tribespeople aren't that different from Muslim ones. There would still be bad blood towards the West, and still be the squabbling for territory that seems to come with the territory being nearly worthless in itself. Orthodox Christianity could as easily be twisted into justifications for violence by people who think a whole civilization has gypped them as Islam was.

[Lemonvariable72]

WOW OMG YOUR RIGHT!! Because there are atrocities commited by non muslims that means that all of the ones committed by muslims are OKAY! How I could I be so stupid to thing this muslims are wrong! I mean its only infidels they are killing after all.

[Dystopia]

So do atrocities committed by non Muslims invalidate atrocities committed by Muslims?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

So do atrocities committed by non Muslims invalidate atrocities committed by Muslims?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

[archangle]

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[Thumpalumpacus]

afro-africian on afro-africian with iron age weapons and ak's.

What is an "afro-africian"?