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How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?

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How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 28, 2014 at 11:08 am
Is 'O' Obama?

Shit this is funny.
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 28, 2014 at 5:29 pm
This has been funny to me also.

Yes, that is who O is.

If I were a gambling man (I am not), I would shove everything I own to the center of the casino table on the view that O is who I said, and this pope will be his accomplice.
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 28, 2014 at 7:02 pm
Isn't it lucky you're not a gambling man?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 28, 2014 at 8:01 pm
I'd either be myself or be myself during one of those extremely powerful prayer sessions I used to have....frankly, not something I worry about these days.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 29, 2014 at 7:52 am
(July 27, 2014 at 8:41 am)alpha male Wrote: The premise of OP is that changing parts of one's personality is necessarily bad...
No, the premise of the OP is that having parts of one's personality forcibly changed by an outside agent, either against one's will or without full disclosure of the impacts of the changes, is necessarily bad.
Sum ergo sum
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 29, 2014 at 8:08 am
(July 29, 2014 at 7:52 am)Ben Davis Wrote: No, the premise of the OP is that having parts of one's personality forcibly changed by an outside agent, either against one's will or without full disclosure of the impacts of the changes, is necessarily bad.
In this case it's voluntary, not forcible, and I'd say it's up to the volunteer to decide what level of disclosure is adequate.
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 29, 2014 at 8:30 am
(July 28, 2014 at 5:29 pm)professor Wrote: This has been funny to me also.

Yes, that is who O is.

If I were a gambling man (I am not), I would shove everything I own to the center of the casino table on the view that O is who I said, and this pope will be his accomplice.

And I would certainly bet against and win everything you own.

Including your tractor.
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 29, 2014 at 8:30 am
(July 28, 2014 at 5:29 pm)professor Wrote: If I were a gambling man (I am not), I would shove everything I own to the center of the casino table on the view that O is who I said, and this pope will be his accomplice.

Given your admission that you don't have a timeline in place, what you're actually doing is shoving everything you own onto a table, and then just assuming that it's a casino table. Dodgy
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 29, 2014 at 9:17 am
(July 29, 2014 at 8:08 am)alpha male Wrote:
(July 29, 2014 at 7:52 am)Ben Davis Wrote: No, the premise of the OP is that having parts of one's personality forcibly changed by an outside agent, either against one's will or without full disclosure of the impacts of the changes, is necessarily bad.
In this case it's voluntary, not forcible, and I'd say it's up to the volunteer to decide what level of disclosure is adequate.

It's not really voluntary if the only other choice is being tortured by fire for eternity. That's pretty much the definition of blackmail.
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RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 30, 2014 at 9:15 am
(July 29, 2014 at 8:08 am)alpha male Wrote:
(July 29, 2014 at 7:52 am)Ben Davis Wrote: No, the premise of the OP is that having parts of one's personality forcibly changed by an outside agent, either against one's will or without full disclosure of the impacts of the changes, is necessarily bad.
In this case it's voluntary, not forcible, and I'd say it's up to the volunteer to decide what level of disclosure is adequate.
What Chad said. Also, the volunteer can't decide what level of disclosure is adequate because they haven't been given all the information. Either way, there's force or manipulation. Contract lawyers would be dancing a jig of glee!
Sum ergo sum
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