Should children be violently abused without their permission.

[Crossless2.0]

I think he meant "prescribe". Funny how one letter made the whole sentence mean the opposite of what he was trying to say.

I know. I'm just indulging my crotchety, pedantic side. Carry on.

[Tonus]

Doctor: Yeah, we'd like to trim this little flap off of the tip of your penis.
Baby: *spits up*
Doctor: I'll take that as a 'Yes.' *grabs pruning shears*

[Jenny A]

Please don't even try to compare female and male circumcision. The first is removing the female equivalent to the cock altogether. It's an anti-pleasure act, permanent, and has never served any health purpose. The second is removing skin and does serve some hygienic purpose, though in a world of hot tap water, hardly one worth the pain and perhaps sensation loss.

That said, no, I don't think circumcision should be allowed on children of either sex. Nor should tattooing children, or donating one of their kidneys to someone else. That it's traditional and religious for some people doesn't change my mind about that.

--- A confession: This identifies me by both nationality and generation, but I'm not Jewish and I've never seen an uncircumcised penis except in pictures.

[The Grand Nudger]

Oh cmon Jenny, you're just saying that because you don't have a dick. If somebody removed a piece of my penis I can gaurantee you that it would be "an anti-pleasure act" as I've had pieces of me removed all around the periphery and that, in itself, was enough to be considred "anti-pleasure".

The purpose of penis is not pleasure (and arguably it isn't even the best way to get a guys rocks off). The clit is -not- the female equivalent of the -entire- cock with reference to the purpose of either (lets say....just the tip?). Can't they both be equally horrible - little bit of gender equality ffs....?

[Jenny A]

Oh cmon Jenny, you're just saying that because you don't have a dick. If somebody removed a piece of my penis I can gaurantee you that it would be "an anti-pleasure act" as I've had pieces of me removed all around the periphery and that, in itself, was enough to be considred "anti-pleasure".

The purpose of penis is not pleasure (and arguably it isn't even the best way to get a guys rocks off). The clit is -not- the female equivalent of the -entire- cock with reference to the purpose of either (lets say....just the tip?). Can't they both be equally horrible - little bit of gender equality ffs....?

Most women without a clit can't orgasm. That's just a little moreso, doncha think? There are some cultures that just cut off some labial, that might be equivalent to male circumcision.

[The Grand Nudger]

I say they're all a bunch of ghouls. What the fuck are they up to anyway? Do they horde foreskins and clits like some wyrm over a pile of gold, or are they attempting to reach the bride/groom price of an exceedingly douchey desert dwelling potentate?

[Minimalist]

"Yes," sayeth the pope.

[Jenny A]

I say they're all a bunch of ghouls. What the fuck are they up to anyway? Do they horde foreskins and clits like some wyrm over a pile of gold, or are they attempting to reach the bride/groom price of an exceedingly douchey desert dwelling potentate?

David and foreskins all over again.

[Oldm8]

Jenny A
You are quite right.
No I don't equate FGM on the same scale as circumcision.
I started on the comparatively minor procedure of circumcision then invited readers to consider FGM.
I know that in Australia and USA most men of my age are circumcised and not for religious reasons.
For those who don't know what FGM is its the removal of the clitoris and inner and outer labia. Mostly without anaesthetic or in sterile conditions. It is absolute agony for the child. The wound is then sewn up allowing a small hole often kept open with a piece of stick for urinating and menses.
The stitches are removed after marriage and the hole opened up after for purpose of sexual intercourse and childbearing.
This is ostensibly for purity, modesty, cleanliness.
But the real reason is to control women.
It is a brutal barbaric thing to do to a young girl but ignorance and peer pressure will ensure it continues.

[The Grand Nudger]

You might get a kick out of this - but I've always imagined David as a sort of Dolph Lundgren type- ala Sergeant Andrew Scott, except - instead of ears, he's got a string of dicks around his neck. Fuckin batshit crazy you know, shellshocked.

(don't let my irreverence put you off OldM8 - I think its as serious as you, but I can't help but imagine my beautiful little daughters naked with some depraved mullah hovering over then with a sharp rock - positively delighted to be doing them harm - and demanding respect and authority for their position as the slicer of children....I gotta do something to blunt that effect)