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Ferguson: too much or not enough?
#21
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
(August 14, 2014 at 7:14 pm)Drich Wrote: What are your thoughts on the police reaction or the reaction of the people?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael...ri-n180166

I work and live near sanford Fl where treyvon Martin was shot and killed. And I saw a huge contrast between what everyday people who lived in sanford verses what the news reported. (A lot of the protesters where shipped/bussed in) To me it seemed a lot of the anger and hate put on tv was not what the community felt. A lot of the black people I spoke with in the area thought treyvon got what he deserved, and if they were in zimmerman's place they would have shot him as well.

I get there are a lot of angry people and rightly so if the news is accurate. But even if this one man was wronged and life cut short is the looting and riots they way to Handel this wrong?

On the otherside is the police response too strong? Or is this show of force what is needed to contain the situation?

It is what you would expect when any group of people do not have economic stability and are singled out by law enforcement. No one is excusing anything. But unless the totality of any given society addresses long term economic problems, social unrest will build. You cannot ignore conditions.
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#22
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
Some interesting statistics regarding the Ferguson PD from Reason.com.

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Granted the city is 2/3rds African-american but still, this ain't their 1st rodeo.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#23
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
(August 14, 2014 at 7:14 pm)Drich Wrote: What are your thoughts on the police reaction or the reaction of the people?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael...ri-n180166

I work and live near sanford Fl where treyvon Martin was shot and killed. And I saw a huge contrast between what everyday people who lived in sanford verses what the news reported. (A lot of the protesters where shipped/bussed in) To me it seemed a lot of the anger and hate put on tv was not what the community felt. A lot of the black people I spoke with in the area thought treyvon got what he deserved, and if they were in zimmerman's place they would have shot him as well.

I get there are a lot of angry people and rightly so if the news is accurate. But even if this one man was wronged and life cut short is the looting and riots they way to Handel this wrong?

On the otherside is the police response too strong? Or is this show of force what is needed to contain the situation?


I suppose if the immediate black community in Montegomery didn't feel like sticking up for Rosa Parks, then You would think the entire civil rights movement would no longer have a leg to stand on.

Not very typical of many Christians back then, but I suppose quite typical of the evangelical sprouter of the prosperity gospel today.
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#24
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
Apparently Mike Brown, or someone the same size & wearing the same clothes as him robbed a convenience store a short time before he was shot.

While a grey shirt, khaki shorts & a St. Louis hat is probably fairly common clothing for that area, the striped socks kinda stand out.

So it looks like Officer Darren Wilson had the right guy, but decided to murder him instead of arresting him. Something about this still smells though. Why did the 2nd suspect (Darian Johnson?) not get arrested or even interviewed? Why did it take a week to produce this video evidence?
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#25
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
The script:

White cop shoots unarmed black guy. Everyone loses their shit, especially after MSNBC begins its wall-to-wall, 24/7 coverage, the President gives a statement from the golf course, America looks like it is about to devolve into civil war, then something else that has ratings potential goes down, news cycle forgets, cop gets cleared of wrongdoing, people go back to their normal lives. Repeat every couple of years.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#26
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
Is there a photo of Brown wearing the striped socks before/during/after the shooting?

Has he been positively ID'd as the convenience store robber?
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#27
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
(August 15, 2014 at 11:25 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: Is there a photo of Brown wearing the striped socks before/during/after the shooting?

Has he been positively ID'd as the convenience store robber?

I can't tell for sure from the photo of his corpse lying on the ground, but they looked striped. If it isn't him it's his twin. Doesn't change the fact that he was executed by a cop.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#28
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
(August 15, 2014 at 11:33 am)Jaysyn Wrote: I can't tell for sure from the photo of his corpse lying on the ground, but they looked striped. If it isn't him it's his twin. Doesn't change the fact that he was executed by a cop.

Socks look striped. That would be an odd coincidence.


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#29
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
(August 15, 2014 at 11:53 am)JesusHChrist Wrote:
(August 15, 2014 at 11:33 am)Jaysyn Wrote: I can't tell for sure from the photo of his corpse lying on the ground, but they looked striped. If it isn't him it's his twin. Doesn't change the fact that he was executed by a cop.

Socks look striped. That would be an odd coincidence.



Also odd there are no timestamps in that CCTV system, or they were cropped out.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#30
RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
The character assassination phase of the cover-up begins.

P.S. - no where in the US is burglary a "capital" crime.
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