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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 6:59 am
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(August 18, 2014 at 9:18 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Just because the store failed to call the police doesn't make it not a robbery!
(If a rape victim fails to contact police, does that signify consent?)
If a "rape" is reported by a 3rd party & the "victim" is of age & declines to press charges, then guess what? It's not rape by *any legal standard*
(August 18, 2014 at 9:18 pm)Brakeman Wrote: "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!" otherwise.. Occam's Razor. You mean like the store clerk that clearly has cash in hand that Mike Brown just gave him for the cigars @ 36 seconds into this alternate angle video that the store owner released?
Apparently the clerk was pissed that Mike Reached over the counter to get the cigars. Also, notice in the previous video (the one that was released by Ferguson PD) that Mike Brown didn't touch the clerk until after the clerk grabbed (assaulted) him.
Also, as of this morning, Ferguson PD has kicked the media as well as Amnesty International off the streets.
So what was that about Occam's Razor?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 7:33 am
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(August 19, 2014 at 6:59 am)Jaysyn Wrote: (August 18, 2014 at 9:18 pm)Brakeman Wrote: "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!" otherwise.. Occam's Razor. You mean like the store clerk that clearly has cash in hand that Mike Brown just gave him for the cigars @ 36 seconds into this alternate angle video that the store owner released?
Apparently the clerk was pissed that Mike Reached over the counter to get the cigars. Also, notice in the previous video (the one that was released by Ferguson PD) that Mike Brown didn't touch the clerk until after the clerk grabbed (assaulted) him.
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So what was that about Occam's Razor? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images...report.pdf
Notice the little checkbox in the report that says the store will press charges?? Did you see it?
Burn!
It WAS robbery and a police report was filed on that day. He stole an entire box of expensive cigarillos.
The video does not show any cash exchange from Mike nor does the cashier seem to be holding any cash as you claim.
It is a lie to say that mike didn't rob the store.
What are the motives of your sources to lie like this? Racism?
You are also claiming that the Indian heritage looking man "assaulted him???" Wow, why would that cashier do that if mike hadn't really stolen anything? Was he racist? Should he be prosecuted?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 8:09 am
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(August 19, 2014 at 7:33 am)Brakeman Wrote: Burn! How mature you are.
(August 19, 2014 at 7:33 am)Brakeman Wrote: What are the motives of your sources to lie like this? Racism? Wow, you are right. At least about that checkbox on the police report. Which was written up after Brown was murdered. Actually you are doubly right since Dorian Williams' attorney has stated that they did in fact swipe some cigars.
You are wrong about one thing though. Looking at existing law, none of this will matter at Wilson's murder trial.
Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b)(1) Wrote:Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.
I did leave a comment on the originating article pointing out the police report & stating that they need to do a better job following up on their stories.
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Re: RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 10:19 am
Is this the young man that was shot?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 10:34 am
(August 19, 2014 at 10:19 am)KUSA Wrote: Is this the young man that was shot?
Appears to be. Why?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 10:35 am
(August 19, 2014 at 10:34 am)Jaysyn Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 10:19 am)KUSA Wrote: Is this the young man that was shot?
Appears to be. Why?
He looks like a gentleman.
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 10:41 am
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(August 19, 2014 at 10:35 am)czúzyt ylgájla Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 10:34 am)Jaysyn Wrote: Appears to be. Why?
He looks like a gentleman.
Just clowning around with a legally owned pistol & the money he made mowing lawns. Can anyone else hear that dog-whistle?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 10:44 am
(August 19, 2014 at 10:41 am)Jaysyn Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 10:35 am)czúzyt ylgájla Wrote: He looks like a gentleman.
Just clowning around with a legally owned pistol & the money he made mowing lawns. Can anyone else hear that dog-whistle?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm
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(August 19, 2014 at 10:41 am)Jaysyn Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 10:35 am)czúzyt ylgájla Wrote: He looks like a gentleman.
Just clowning around with a legally owned pistol & the money he made mowing lawns. Can anyone else hear that dog-whistle?
I see three items of interest in the picture.
1. A gun which Michael is just barely old enough to buy and of which I very, very highly doubt that he purchased legally.
2. A bottle of alcohol of which he is not old enough to buy or consume. (must be 21)
3. A wad of cash that he is displaying in a picture in the manner of a drug dealer showing off his "bounty."
He's such a fine character and such an exemplary citizen! I bet he was engaged to Tawana Brawley.
(August 19, 2014 at 8:09 am)Jaysyn Wrote: You are wrong about one thing though. Looking at existing law, none of this will matter at Wilson's murder trial.
Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b)(1) Wrote:Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.
Your own source disagrees with you. Why did you not read further down?
Quote:However, there is a significant exception to Rule 404(b):
This evidence may be admissible for another purpose, such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident.
The classic example of this rule is the old Law & Order episode where the kid "accidentally" shoots his friend, and detectives discover that he had previously "accidentally" shot another friend. The prior shooting wasn't admissible to show that the kid was the sort of person who shoots people, but it was admissible to call into doubt his story that the latest shooting was an accident, because it tended to show he knew guns and knew what he was doing — an absence of mistake.
Here, the robbery may be relevant to state of mind. At least as I understand the facts, it's not relevant to Wilson's state of mind, because he didn't know about the robbery when he shot Brown.2 But it could conceivably relate to Brown's state of mind. Wilson might argue that Brown resisted him because Brown thought he was being arrested for robbery, and that Wilson's story that Brown forcibly resisted arrest is more credible if Brown had a motive to resist.
True, one couldn't use the evidence to show Brown was in a state of mind to rob a convenience store, but who cares about that?
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RE: Ferguson: too much or not enough?
August 19, 2014 at 2:00 pm
(August 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Brakeman Wrote: I see three items of interest in the picture.
1. A gun which Michael is just barely old enough to buy and of which I very, very highly doubt that he purchased legally.
2. A bottle of alcohol of which he is not old enough to buy or consume. (must be 21)
3. A wad of cash that he is displaying in a picture in the manner of a drug dealer showing off his "bounty."
He's such a fine character and such an exemplary citizen! I bet he was engaged to Tawana Brawley.
Where are those damn dog whistles coming from?!?
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