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What is the point of Heaven?
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 (August 18, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Diablo Wrote: It's a good scam, no? One of the greatest! Don't get me wrong, I'd love to live with no ailments and enjoy everlasting serenity, but I'm not counting on it. (As long as it doesn't require constant worship, that takes away from the eternal bliss part)
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 (August 18, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Manowar Wrote: Can someone please explain to me the point of Heaven? If you are good you go there and serve God, for ever and ever and ever, sounds pretty bad to me. A scholar said this, I am paraphrasing here. " If heaven is real and is as described in the Bible, it must be the most unimaginable hell" That sounds right to me, so why should I want to go there? Carrots. Hell and being beaten by adherents is the stick, and heaven is the carrot. You need carrots and sticks to get people to act the way you want. 
A place where I can either be a super sayian or sith. Jokes aside, heaven by biblical standard seems boring.
![[Image: grumpy-cat-and-jesus-meme-died-for-sins.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-_GaCN-f8ZFo%2FUNfmimTyf4I%2FAAAAAAAANmk%2FoakT_wL319U%2Fs1600%2Fgrumpy-cat-and-jesus-meme-died-for-sins.jpg) I would be a televangelist....but I have too much of a soul. 
I always figured a major perk of being in heaven was getting to observe the sinners being tormented.
Oh, yeah, look at that demon over there!! He's got a flaming penis wrapped in red hot barbed wire!!! I bet he's going to stick it in that Mormon lady wailing in the burning cesspool !!!! Freudenschade, heaven is freudenschade. (boy did the Methodist fuck me up or what ???) 
You were Methodist as well huh? (Methodist Preachers kid)
I would be a televangelist....but I have too much of a soul.
The point, other than being the carrot that complements the rod?
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I think that some religious denominations dress it up a bit better than "you get to sit there and tell god how awesome he is for the rest of eternity." But I don't know if there is a version that ultimately doesn't go off the rails if you think about it enough. What happens when everyone's in heaven and god reveals all of the universe's secrets? What do we do when we've learned all there is to learn? What do we do when there's no more risk, and no more danger, and thus no more excitement? What do we do when there's nothing left to discover, to attain, to succeed at? What do you do when you no longer have to do anything?
Heaven is what you get when someone installs a fire extinguisher at the entrance to hell.
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(August 19, 2014 at 11:34 am)Tonus Wrote: I think that some religious denominations dress it up a bit better than "you get to sit there and tell god how awesome he is for the rest of eternity." But I don't know if there is a version that ultimately doesn't go off the rails if you think about it enough. What happens when everyone's in heaven and god reveals all of the universe's secrets? What do we do when we've learned all there is to learn? What do we do when there's no more risk, and no more danger, and thus no more excitement? What do we do when there's nothing left to discover, to attain, to succeed at? What do you do when you no longer have to do anything? Don't underestimate the fun of watching the sinners in Hell getting boned by demons. I bet I could watch that for CENTURIES !! Hell, the demons are going to keep mixing things up and maintaining interest. Just from the stand point of those being tormented would never be allowed to 'get used to it' or to get bored with a specific punishment for too long. Maybe angels get to make suggestions on how the sinners get punished ??? MORE FUNNELS AND MOLTEN LAVA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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