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What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm)revivin Wrote: You know Allah is not God because you can't come along six centuries later and say Jesus didn't die on the cross with no evidence.

Yet you don't seem to have a problem with early Christians using the then two millennium old story of Horus' twelve disciples, crucifixion, and resurrection after three days.
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
This discussion seems to have happened an infinite number of times before.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:39 pm)revivin Wrote:
(August 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Tonus Wrote: Well it seems as if someone did come along six centuries later and make that claim, therefore Allah must be god.

Why just some guy in a cave all by himself making that claim means it's true without any evidence?

Definition of Irony
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. "
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:41 pm)revivin Wrote:
(August 19, 2014 at 2:40 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: The koran proves its true, it says so in the koran. I can't think of any better evidence, can you?

How does that overturn the evidence of the 27 books that Jesus died on the cross?


The 27 books is taken together or singly no evidence of anything other than many people copied from a few fools.
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:41 pm)revivin Wrote:
(August 19, 2014 at 2:40 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: The koran proves its true, it says so in the koran. I can't think of any better evidence, can you?

How does that overturn the evidence of the 27 books that Jesus died on the cross?

How does your NT overturn the evidence of the Koran?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:41 pm)Chuck Wrote: Cause and effect are defined by time.

You would have happened already if you had an eternity to come into being before now.
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:45 pm)revivin Wrote: You would have happened already if you had an eternity to come into being before now.

Not if my parents weren't around to fuck.
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
I'm becoming more and more skeptical that Revivin is here to have any sort of actual discussion at all.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
(August 19, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Cato Wrote:
(August 19, 2014 at 2:45 pm)revivin Wrote: You would have happened already if you had an eternity to come into being before now.

Not if my parents weren't around to fuck.

I remember the first time I learned that my parents did the deed, I couldn't believe it.
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RE: What Are the Rules of Something from Nothing?
Atheists prove God exists because they know something can't come from nothing and infinite regress is impossible.
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