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Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 11:12 am
(September 6, 2014 at 11:04 am)Dawsonite Wrote: Dunno about ALL religions, but if you think Islam is "uniquely violent," spend a few minutes browsing the Old Testament, and read up a bit on a little party that Christians threw called the Inquisition. (The Inquisition still exists, BTW, cooled down a bit. It's now called the Confraternity of Christian Document. Old wine, new bottle.)

The Aztec religion was a bit on the naughty side too, what with all the cutting out of the still beating hearts with a sharpened stone and all.

All fundamental beliefs seem to end with people being killed or otherwise oppressed.



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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 11:22 am
(September 6, 2014 at 9:48 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Turkeys voting for Christmas.

Think to yourself why you had to add the "but I'm not racist" line. You can't separate UKIP from racism, because it isn't your wife's race it's aimed at mainly does not make it not racist.

I have seen a lot of my facebook friends that seem to think the same. I don't know why at times of economic stress people gravitate towards the right wing but it seems to be a thing across the developed world. It's as though when the going gets tough people become short sighted, insular and petty. UKIP are the republican party of the UK.

I've heard this line of reasoning before but I think you are wrong.
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 11:31 am
(September 5, 2014 at 8:47 pm)StealthySkeptic Wrote: I never thought that I would agree with the racist UKIP on something but...here I am.

A disturbing trend.
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 4:04 pm
Islam...

Is...

Not...

A...

Race!
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 5:15 pm (This post was last modified: September 6, 2014 at 5:26 pm by lifesagift.)
UKIP is not the solution, but thus far it's better than the other options (even with the embedded nutters)

And Islam is not the religion of peace right now.... stating the old testament and any other middle aged waring nation is not compatible with the modern age... islam is committing genocide and acting inappropriately for this modern age we live in.. they have ZERO tolerance.
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 5:38 pm
Finally I see people acting against Islam . yay Smile
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 5:42 pm
(September 6, 2014 at 5:15 pm)lifesagift Wrote: UKIP is not the solution, but thus far it's better than the other options (even with the embedded nutters)

And Islam is not the religion of peace right now.... stating the old testament and any other middle aged waring nation is not compatible with the modern age... islam is committing genocide and acting inappropriately for this modern age we live in.. they have ZERO tolerance.

But there has to be a realisation that millions of muslins actually appreciate and live by western values and won't chop you head off...

So castigating a whole religion for the actions of a few is wrong...
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm
The verses in Quran if read logically obviously teach peace as a primary principle, war in self defense, and freedom of religion. This is obvious to people acquainted with the whole Quran and take a holistic approach.
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 5:54 pm
(September 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The verses in Quran if read logically obviously teach peace as a primary principle, war in self defense, and freedom of religion. This is obvious to people acquainted with the whole Quran and take a holistic approach.

No.. later versions are more violent, and by tradition the latter versions should be followed..
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
September 6, 2014 at 6:02 pm
(September 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The verses in Quran if read logically obviously teach peace as a primary principle, war in self defense, and freedom of religion. This is obvious to people acquainted with the whole Quran and take a holistic approach.

It's a pity that "war as self defense" has been ignored throughout history by Islamic nations.
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