Let's answer CARM's Questions for Atheists

[fr0d0]

lol well if God acts on material reality from non material reality then if you want to call that a gap, then so be it. I think it's more finding out precisely what we cannot ever know. Is a hole ever not hole? No because then we wouldn't call it a hole.

[genkaus]

lol well if God acts on material reality from non material reality then if you want to call that a gap, then so be it. I think it's more finding out precisely what we cannot ever know. Is a hole ever not hole? No because then we wouldn't call it a hole.

You are the one who equated your god to the gap in our knowledge, not me. I'm fine with calling him imaginary.

[Aoi Magi]

A hole is not a hole as soon as it gets filled. Similarly fill the gaps in knowledge and the "immaterial entity" will cease to exist.

[Chad32]

Science can possibly discover more things that are not God. This only goes to increase the accuracy of what we know is God. More knowledge of not God = more knowledge of God.

Not really. That's like saying the more we know of what dragons aren't, the more we know of what dragons are. That doesn't mean that dragons exist. Or you can insert whatever supernatural force you want. We don't know that gods exist until we find one, so there's no point in saying they do.

[JesusHChrist]

There's a Dragon shaped hole in ...

Oh nevermind

[Neo-Scholastic]

Science can possibly discover more things that are not God. This only goes to increase the accuracy of what we know is God. More knowledge of not God = more knowledge of God.

So, basically, you are refuting the god-of-the-gaps argument by saying that your god is the gap.

It's called the Negative Way. According to this mystical tradition any attribution you attempt to assign falls so far short that it highlights the ineffability of God. Try it sometime. It's actually a very illuminating approach to meditation.

[Thumpalumpacus]

A hole is not defined by what it is not, a hole is defined as the absence of that which surrounds it, which is.

Yes, the hole is defined by what surrounds it, but the hole itself is not the same as that which surrounds it. The point is that Esquilax asked for something that is intrinsically immaterial. A hole is known with respect to something material but is not itself material. Thus it is possible to know about something that is indeed immaterial through observation of something that is material. If however you insist that holes are just convenient fictions and do not really exist then that makes you an a-hole, now doesn't it?

I'm pretty sure that space itself is a thing (you've heard the phrase the fabric of space-time, right?), meaning that even a hole is something.

A hole in the ground is something: it is a subterranean collection of atmosphere, and that is indeed material.

[Esquilax]

Will we know if you don't start it?

Yes, because there will be a hole in the philosophy forum where my thread should be.

Okay, that one was pretty funny.

[genkaus]

It's called the Negative Way. According to this mystical tradition any attribution you attempt to assign falls so far short that it highlights the ineffability of God. Try it sometime. It's actually a very illuminating approach to meditation.

And what's the criteria for determining it has fallen short?

[fr0d0]

And what's the criteria for determining it has fallen short?

The less there isn't the more there is