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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 27, 2014 at 9:45 am
(September 26, 2014 at 9:39 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: I don't mean to be a "hippie" about this. But I was geniunely wondering:
I'm a Christian and I don't force my beliefs onto anyone. I used to be athiest then agnostic, and when I picked up Christianity again, I came to terms that people should be able to believe whatever they want as long as their beliefs aren't cultivating hatred towards another human being.
I also have many athiest, agnostic, and a few muslim friends. They are all awesome individuals, and we find ourselves in debates and disagreements about worldviews, but at the end of the day we just agree to disagree, and respect each other as fellow human beings.
I am also very aware of the "Christianity complex". Christians who feel the need to tell people that they are all going to hell and that they need to "turn from their sins". Yea, I get it, it annoys me too. But I have also been insulted by atheist individuals (luckily I'm pretty laid-back so I tend to shrug it off and laugh at myself if possible).
In conclusion my question is kind of a two-sided question:
Do you think it is possible for Christians and Athiest to come to terms with their differences? And if so, or if not, what do you think it would take to make something like that happen?
In short, no. We can't be friends because the majority of Christians aren't as nice as you.
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 27, 2014 at 9:46 am
Do most Christers respect their own religious beliefs ??
Like in regards to remarriage following divorce? Serpent handling? Healing via laying on of the hands? Invoking Jesus' 5 Commandments, not his dad's 10 ?
If they aren't respecting their own beliefs to any discernable degree (as shown by their ACTIONS, not their WORDS) then why should we respect them and their beliefs at all ??
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 12:23 pm
The Bible states Atheists like us will burn in Hell, let's do the maths.
Hell + Good guy who denies the existence of God = Immoral bullshit.
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm
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(September 27, 2014 at 12:41 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (September 26, 2014 at 9:39 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: Do you think it is possible for Christians and Athiest to come to terms with their differences? And if so, or if not, what do you think it would take to make something like that happen?
Yes, when Christians reject the literalism suggested by orthodox Christianity's central tenets and join us at the table of honest inquiry.
Then they are no longer Christians or Believers.
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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(September 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Then they are no longer Christians or Believers.
.....................yeah...uh.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RrdwElnTU
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 3:37 pm
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What's that, the argumentum ad Händelam?
The vid doesn't work in my country btw.
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
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LOL, no (but I'm going to find a way to use that someday) - it's simply my reaction to those who, by way of an in depth investigation of the the biblical narrative, reject the christian faith in favor of some allegorical approach.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
Respecting each others' beliefs is as simple as saying "I don't agree with your beliefs, but I respect you as an individual." I work along side of individuals who are non-christian and we act together to get the job done. We talk, joke, laugh and all that good stuff. We don't condemn each other for what we believe, but at the same time they know that I'm a christian. If I worked with someone for a year and they still didn't know I was a christian, I'd feel like I wasn't living my faith out--"wishy, washy". At the same time, if I feel that someone doesn't want to talk about their or my beliefs, I don't discuss it. But, at the same time I'm open to hear about theirs as long as they're not trying to force it on me. That is respecting each other's beliefs.
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 3:44 pm
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Then you are respecting a person, not their beliefs, or in spite of their beliefs. So, not so simple after all. If you managed not to out yourself as a christian to someone for a whole year, I'd call that "being a decent person".
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How can Christians and Atheist respect each other's beliefs?
September 29, 2014 at 3:59 pm
(September 29, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Then you are respecting a person, not their beliefs, or in spite of their beliefs. So, not so simple after all. If you managed not to out yourself as a christian to someone for a whole year, I'd call that "being a decent person".
What's decent about hiding the fact that I'm a christian? That's who I am. If we respect each other, then we respect who we are. I respect the fact that you're an an atheist. I don't agree with your belief, but I respect you as a person.
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