3 ways Jesus read the bible.

[bladevalant546]

I did find a rather interesting article here. I wanted to know you alls thoughts on it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pete-enns/...lp00000592

[ShaMan]

Most Christians who have read the bible many times have no idea what it really teaches. Such is the fate of 'sinful' Man.

[bladevalant546]

That very well maybe, however it is interesting to note there could be slight universalist esc. leanings in the NT as well.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's an idea that has merit, but makes religious faith and holy texts irrelevant. Even "getting jesus right" becomes irrelevant...why not "creatively interpret" him - as the author proposes he did with his scriptures? Meh, why do we even need a jesus to creatively interpret? I can weave you a web with little red riding hood (and I can......btw) - and I'll be doing the same damned thing.

The author takes it to the edge of the cliff, tells us that there is merit in jumping.....and then refuses to jump.

[bladevalant546]

Hahaha indeed, human imagination is a strange and wonderful thing. I find it really compelling since the Jesus the modern church might be preaching about just maybe be the opposite to what 90% of all Christians hold true.

[Drich]

I did find a rather interesting article here. I wanted to know you alls thoughts on it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pete-enns/...lp00000592

1. Jesus didn't stick to what "the Bible says," but read it with a creative flare that had little if any connection to what the biblical writer actually meant to say.

Ah, no. This artical was written on the bias that Jesus was just some teacher/rabbi that christians took to. Remember Christians believe Jesus was literally God and as such had the authority to extend/complete the law/passages as He saw fit. 'Christians' do not have that authority, that is why we are told to not go beyond the authority of Scripture.

2. Jesus felt he could "pick and choose" what parts of the Old Testament were valid and which weren't.

Again no. Jesus is God and has the Authority to reach far and beyond the understanding of any specific teacher. Including Moses. The Pharisees saw this and it severly angered them. Jesus teaching with the Authority of Moses is mentioned several times, throughout the gospels, and is looked on by the religious leaders unfavoriably, as it usurped their authority.

3. Jesus read his Bible as a Jew, not an evangelical (or even a Christian).

Ahhh ha, no. Jesus was only ever once recorded reading from the Holy Scripture. Everything else He refernces was from memory. Remember writing material was extremely rare and vauable, meaning everyone did not have a 'bible.' In Judaism only the levitical priests were authorized to possess them. Jesus was from the tribe of Juda and not Levi. Meaning even if he could afford to have a 'bible' (which is a 4th century construct) He would not be allowed to carry it.

further more When one was selected to read from the Holy Scripture as a Jew then, Great effort and care is taken to make sure every syllable is pronounced and enunciated correctly. They are even required to read with a special stick (Yad) and place it beneath each word so as to not carlessly handle or misspeak God's word, (and to keep the unclean from touching God's word.) This whole paragraph is bunk. No one including Christ when reading the scripture took liberties as a Jew.

[The Grand Nudger]

That's a pretty good idea...keeping the bible at least a sticks length away from one's self.....you ever considered doing that Drich?

[vorlon13]

Why would Jesus have to read the Bible ??


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[Minimalist]

The biggest fucking problem with the article is that there was no fucking bible in the first century.

The OT - as shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls - had not been compiled into a single book and that process was not completed until c. 200 AD. And, of course, there was no NT as that collection of shit had not been written and could not be written while the purported godboy was still "alive."

[Drich]

The biggest fucking problem with the article is that there was no fucking bible in the first century.

The OT - as shown by the Dead Sea Scrolls - had not been compiled into a single book and that process was not completed until c. 200 AD. And, of course, there was no NT as that collection of shit had not been written and could not be written while the purported godboy was still "alive."

Echo.... Echo.. Echo..