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Abortion not allowed
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 RE: Abortion not allowed
October 9, 2014 at 4:21 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2014 at 4:22 pm by C4RM5.)
Okay they are different things but destroying a festus prevents the baby which in my view is still murder.
It has actually been 31 pages. 
Carm, I think you should convert to Jainism
A condom prevents a fetus which prevents a baby, are condoms murder? What about the multitude of fertilized eggs that simply naturally don't implant? Is nature a murderer? Or is that your God's doing?
The whole 'potentiality of a person' trope is such crap.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson RE: Abortion not allowed
October 9, 2014 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2014 at 4:24 pm by C4RM5.)
Why should I convert?
No what really annoys me is when fetuses are aborted at 24 weeks old, at this age a baby can survive being born, it is therefore alive.
Bacteria is alive :p
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 9, 2014 at 4:13 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Is there anything wrong with being a baby? You really don't get it do you? What constitutes as murder is totally defined by the law. Whether it is wrong or right is a different story all together. Right, lets answer these stupid parody questions. No there is nothing wrong with being a foetus In some cases yes, the foetus does harm the mother Yes there is a reason to kill foetuses for being foetuses, because the mother doesn't want it in her body. It's amazing how (in your opinion) a woman should lose all bodily rights as soon as she becomes pregnant. It comes down to the lesser of two evils. And I believe that the termination of a pregnancy is more moral than the violation of bodily rights.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (October 9, 2014 at 4:23 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Why should I convert? Ahhh, so you're okay with abortions before viability?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
No, after conception I don't think humans should stop the process.
But we've established that until a certain point the fetus isn't alive (as much as you like to repeat otherwise, it's just wrong). What obligates a woman to put the existence of a blastocyst above her own rights of bodily autonomy? Or more accurately, what justification are you claiming for removing her rights of bodily autonomy (even in cases of rape, according to you)?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson  (October 9, 2014 at 4:29 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: No, after conception I don't think humans should stop the process. You can think that all you like, but you haven't supported that opinion at all with a non-special pleading justification. All you do is repeatedly assert your opinion as though simply saying something over and over counts as an argument. You haven't even addressed the contention that a fetus has no life before a certain point and is therefore not a person, other than to say that it can become a person... which is irrelevant, as demonstrated on this very page of the thread. 
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