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Abortion not allowed
RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 10, 2014 at 5:57 pm)ShaMan Wrote:
(October 10, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Chas Wrote: Aborting a fetus is not infanticide. Get a dictionary.

in·fan·ti·cide
inˈfan(t)əˌsīd/
noun
1. the crime of killing a child within a year of birth.
Nice willful omission. The full definition is...

in·fan·ti·cide
inˈfan(t)əˌsīd/

noun
1.
the crime of killing a child within a year of birth.
2.
a person who kills an infant, especially their own child.

I'm very aware that the definition of Human has been amended to allow this practice to be 'legal'. I get it.

What was not included was no necessary and changes nothing.
What you ignore is the phrase "within a year of birth".

By definition, abortion is not infanticide.
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I have I have said I believe that everyone deserves a fair and equal chance, I have said I believe abortion is murder as you are preventing someone from living. How are these not arguements. I have said at 24 weeks a baby can survive birth.

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Who cares about abortion when there's Ebola and ISIS
I don't
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(October 10, 2014 at 6:00 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have I have said I believe that everyone deserves a fair and equal chance, I have said I believe abortion is murder as you are preventing someone from living. How are these not arguements. I have said at 24 weeks a baby can survive birth.

Fine, let's agree that at twenty-four weeks the fetus is human. Before that, no.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 10, 2014 at 6:00 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have I have said I believe that everyone deserves a fair and equal chance, I have said I believe abortion is murder as you are preventing someone from living. How are these not arguements. I have said at 24 weeks a baby can survive birth.

That's just a belief

Edit: sorry in advance
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(October 10, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Chas Wrote: By definition, abortion is not infanticide.
Ok, very well. I'll call it what it is then. Murder. Iknow, I know, I know... "It's not murder because it's not a Human!" Well isn't that tidy? And yet, it's considered a double homicide if someone kills a woman who is pregnant at ANY term. Thinking
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 10, 2014 at 6:03 pm)ShaMan Wrote:
(October 10, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Chas Wrote: By definition, abortion is not infanticide.
Ok, very well. I'll call it what it is then. Murder. Iknow, I know, I know... "It's not murder because it's not a Human!" Well isn't that tidy? And yet, it's considered a double homicide if someone kills a woman who is pregnant at ANY term. Thinking

Only in late-term pregnancy is that true.

Please define what a human being is and provide a reasonable argument.
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Has anyone heard of the hippocratic oath literally it is an oath tzking by doctors saying they will value and take care of humzn life from the point of conception.

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They won't ever actually define what a human being is because we would be able to pin them down on it and point out what is wrong with it.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
(October 10, 2014 at 6:02 pm)DramaQueen Wrote:
(October 10, 2014 at 6:00 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have I have said I believe that everyone deserves a fair and equal chance, I have said I believe abortion is murder as you are preventing someone from living. How are these not arguements. I have said at 24 weeks a baby can survive birth.

That's just a belief

Edit: sorry in advance

I baby can survive at 24 weeks it is not just my personal belief.

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