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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:15 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm)ShaMan Wrote: (October 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Chas Wrote: Please define what a human being is and provide a reasonable argument. If you will provide your definition of "being" then I will be happy to do my best to present my position. If you and I are starting from different points there is little likelihood that we'll ever understand one another.
You are the one claiming a fetus is a human being. I say a human being requires a brain and nervous system.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:16 pm
Is cutting it murder?
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:16 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is part of you so yes it is human.
My fingernail has no rights, so by your definition, neither should a foetus.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:16 pm
What has a fingernail got to do with abortion, please stop going of topic
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:17 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is part of you so yes it is human.
What is a human being? A person?
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:17 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (October 10, 2014 at 6:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is part of you so yes it is human.
My fingernail has no rights, so by your definition, neither should a foetus.
There is a big difference between a part of yourself and an entire oher human
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:18 pm
I told you, read a physiology textbook
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:18 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:17 pm)Chas Wrote: (October 10, 2014 at 6:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is part of you so yes it is human.
What is a human being? A person?
You are really strange because I literally just described this.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:20 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:16 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: What has a fingernail got to do with abortion, please stop going of topic
You are literally too stupid to insult.
Your definition of a human being is so broad and non-specific that you consider my finger nail as a human being. When I cut it off, are you going to hold a funeral for it?
No. Because my fingernail has no human rights because it isn't human. So by your definition, a foetus is indistinguishable from a fingernail.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:22 pm
(October 10, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (October 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm)ShaMan Wrote: If you will provide your definition of "being" then I will be happy to do my best to present my position. If you and I are starting from different points there is little likelihood that we'll ever understand one another.
He asked first. Stop being obnoxious. You've misconstrued my question. It's sincere and it stands on its own. If Chas and I have differing definitions of what a 'being' is (and I suspect that we do) then the terms must first be defined before conversation can proceed. It's a logical truth.
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