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Why do Christians trust the Bible?
#51
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
(October 10, 2014 at 12:29 pm)professor Wrote: I stepped out on a limb and started sawing it off between me and the tree, that was my perception of the following-
I repented. I surrendered to Father God in Heaven.
I did not fall. I was born from Above that night.

What do you mean, here? I'm assuming you're speaking metaphorically?
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#52
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
To Robby, yes, the tree limb was a metaphor.
That was the exact thing going thru my mind.
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#53
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
(October 9, 2014 at 9:31 am)RobbyPants Wrote: I wonder why Christians trust the Bible as a valid source of information for what happened. I'm not talking about the obviousness of all the unsubstantiated accounts of magic happening. I don't mean how their apologetics show YHWH is untrustworthy (I already touched on that). I just mean the overall account of things:
  • Stories being told by authors who had no witnesses to the events.
  • Books being written by people who had "divine revelations".
  • Satan as "the Deceiver".
The first two bullet points show how the story is written by people with no accountability for their fantastic claims. Hell, people have analyzed the texts and know for sure that Paul didn't write all the epistles. The exact number of them is in dispute, but we know that people claiming to be someone who had a divine revelation from God got their books inserted into biblical canon, and that doesn't even speak to whether or not Paul actually did have any revelation. How do people know this? How would they even be able to check to see if he's telling the truth? They are warned about false teacher and prophets and to not listen to them, but they have no way to be able to check the veracity of the author's claims. They could be false teacher poisoning the well against dissenting points of view.

And on the topic of poisoning the well, what about poor Satan? We are told flat-out that he is wrong, he is a liar, and to never trust him. This is a one-sided story where we are told to never talk to the other side to try and figure out what really happened. In any other situation, this would be highly suspicious and it would look like someone is trying to hide something. Put it in the context of religion, and suddenly everything is fine and it gets a free pass.

Shouldn't this alone be enough to put doubt into any adherent? Ignoring the absurdity of all the claims, the total lack of evidence, and the demonstrable wrongness of parts of the Bible, the book itself looks sketchy as hell.

The scientific reason is that humans seek patterns, but like prior pattern seeking life, you do not always have time to stop and think and reason, like an antelope on the African plains doesn't have time to think if the swaying grass is wind, or a hiding lion.

Dawkin's describes this in "The God Delusion" as the moth mistaking the light bulb for the moonlight.

Our species fills in gaps, because it can even if it is a false answer produce a group that the numbers when greater can create more opportunity to create offspring and get resources.

For the same reason the Ancient Egyptians falsely believed for 3,000 years in their polytheistic gods.
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#54
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
(October 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Dawkin's describes this in "The God Delusion" as the moth mistaking the light bulb for the moonlight.
Sorta like a materialist mistaking the physical universe as the whole of reality.
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#55
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
ROFLOL
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#56
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
Yes,Christians trust the Bible

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#57
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
How do you even know it's true?
This question is the most important in my humble opinion
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#58
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
(October 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(October 10, 2014 at 11:32 am)genkaus Wrote: The "rewards" you guys describe here sound about as real as "aligning your chakras" ...
I do this regularly during meditation. I can assure you that the process and beneficial results are very real.

Are you claiming that you "align your chakras"?
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#59
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
I trust that the Bible is true.

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#60
RE: Why do Christians trust the Bible?
Explain why
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