To explain knowledge of God

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Robby.
Another way of what I am saying is you guys totally ignore anything that is historical for all recorded time (or current, for that matter) which goes against your world view- you relate all of it to ignorance or superstition.
Give me a break.
Then again, you are the first totally rational, naturalistic indoctrinated generation that has ever lived.
Stands to reason.

No we just ignore the ramblings of a mad man.

[Cyberman]

Still laughing at the idea of being told I have a "simple atheist mind" by Drich.

[Drich]

Seriously?

Was God to create a race of equals?

Why not? Does he need our worship for some reason?

Didn't really think this through did you..
Are you familiar with greek or Roman mythology? Are you familiar with comic books, are you familiar with world history? What is the common thread between them?
Let me ask you this:
What would happen if the members of ISIS were literal gods?

[RobbyPants]

Robby.
Another way of what I am saying is you guys totally ignore anything that is historical for all recorded time (or current, for that matter) which goes against your world view- you relate all of it to ignorance or superstition.
Give me a break.

Now, if huge swaths of that "historical record" is also superstitious, should we take it seriously?

Then again, you are the first totally rational, naturalistic indoctrinated generation that has ever lived.
Stands to reason.

Yeah, it's too bad I'm just now starting to embrace that.

[Drich]

He did not fail MY promise test.. MY promise test has one adhearing to his end of what is recorded in the bible. to date no one who says they sought God has actually followed the steps as outlined in luke 11.

You JUST made the claim that you tested God and He failed. I am asking to 'test' your test.

If it is as you say then you should have no issue allowing to scrutinize your testing efforts.

My test was very simple. I asked (prayed by myself, prayed with a group, went to church, went to bible study, etc...) Jesus to come into my heart for over 15 years. He did not. Hence he doesn't exist.

Now, ask yourself did Jesus say that if you did what you specifically did, He would reveal himself? If yes then please provide Book Chapter and verse.

[FatAndFaithless]

Why not? Does he need our worship for some reason?

Didn't really think this through did you..
Are you familiar with greek or Roman mythology? Are you familiar with comic books, are you familiar with world history? What is the common thread between them?
Let me ask you this:
What would happen if the members of ISIS were literal gods?

The hell does that have to do with anything? I'm asking you if your God created us just because he needed to be worshipped.

[Tonus]

Not blueprint. OUT LINE. We do not see it as empty because we followed the outline as per Luke 11 and found God!

The outline is no less vague and no less simple. Jesus only says to ask, and to persist, and his example does not imply that one must persist very long or very vehemently, because god is like a loving parent or caring neighbor. Any attempt to explain away someone else's results by going beyond that are self-serving.

Again our acts have no intrinsic value in God's economy in of themselves. (It's not what we do it's why we are doing it that makes all the difference in the world.)

If sincerity of motive is all that is required, then those of us who were raised in a faith and served and worshiped faithfully would have gotten that response. If it's a simple and straightforward process, then success should be easy to attain and failure just as easy to identify and correct.

Paul was seeking out God in his worship, and when God corrected him he changed with the correction. You all earnestly seek out God and when God moves to correct, you turn on Him because He is not granting your wishes.. Or He let something bad happen to you so as to get your attention, and rather than stop and turn to seek Him on his terms you all seem to turn on a 'God you can not respect or love.'

I did not have any such event or problems in my life. As I have explained before, I have always been a happy and optimistic person. I was happy as a theist, and am happy as an atheist. The only thing that made me stop believing was that I continued to test my beliefs and ultimately found them wanting once I stripped away the presuppositions and fallacies that supported them.

To date, the discussions here have shown that those who hold the beliefs I held (or similar ones) rely on the same presuppositions and explanations that I find lacking. For you, this may be sufficient to rationalize my results. I've seen people hang on to belief on flimsier premises-- I used to be one of them, after all.

[Drich]

Still laughing at the idea of being told I have a "simple atheist mind" by Drich.

I did not say all atheist minds were simple. I simply said to the simple atheist mind...
Meaning some are simple and to the simple ones they would think this way...

Whether or not you personally fall into this catagory greatly depends on whether or not you where thinking anything that I wrote out.

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Didn't really think this through did you..
Are you familiar with greek or Roman mythology? Are you familiar with comic books, are you familiar with world history? What is the common thread between them?
Let me ask you this:
What would happen if the members of ISIS were literal gods?

The hell does that have to do with anything? I'm asking you if your God created us just because he needed to be worshipped.

And I am trying to get you to think at the broader implications of your question.

You did not ask a "A" or "B" question even though you think you did.

There are responsiablities to bring life into this world. Purpose is only apart of that equasion.

To answer your question directly look to the orginal task/purpose of Adam. He was the master of God's creation. That would mean we to one degree or another will/should have a similar task when we are worthy to take such a responsiablity.

[FatAndFaithless]

Still laughing at the idea of being told I have a "simple atheist mind" by Drich.

I did not say all atheist minds were simple. I simply said to the simple atheist mind...
Meaning some are simple and to the simple ones they would think this way...

Whether or not you personally fall into this catagory greatly depends on whether or not you where thinking anything that I wrote out.

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The hell does that have to do with anything? I'm asking you if your God created us just because he needed to be worshipped.

And I am trying to get you to think at the broader implications of your question.

You did not ask a "A" or "B" question even though you think you did.

There are responsiablities to bring life into this world. Purpose is only apart of that equasion.

To answer your question directly look to the orginal task/purpose of Adam. He was the master of God's creation. That would mean we to one degree or another will/should have a similar task when we are worthy to take such a responsiablity.

Well...thanks for not answering the question at all. For what purpose did God create humans?

[DramaQueen]

He didn't get the sims