My honest review of Christianity

[The Grand Nudger]

More importantly, why do you think hinduism is wrong?

[Vivalarevolution]

The thing I always heard was that hinduism was a way of life not a religion.
But no matter how many times apologists say that hinduism has nothing to do with the following things- it does.

Sati- burning of widows alive when the husband is to be cremated. This is because women were made only to serve the husband. And with him dead, she had no purpose anymore. OF COURSE the husband is going to die before the girl if he's 30 years older than her. Thankfully this was banned during British rule and only one case pops up every decade or so now.

2) the caste system was just a "divinely ordered" way of life to keep society moving forward. Thereby keeping the ugly and poor at the bottom and the rich and white skinned people at the top.

I'll continue later

[Aoi Magi]

I find it particularly amusing that the caste system boils down to priests at the top, military directly beneath, tradesmen beneath that, and unskilled labor at the bottom. How very spiritual and enlightened. Couldn't imagine, other than a dispatch from the cosmos itself, how such a system might have originated.....

That's being abandoned by hindus of late in any case. Amusingly, christians (in India) seemed to stick with the caste system (or conversely abandon it) at approximately the same rate as hindus. Talk about a crossover act.

Lol, that is a pretty accurate summation of the caste system. But just a little clarification, the priests or brahmins are not at the top, the "rishis" are...

As for the crossover, all religions learn from each other to attract followers, it's just that they almost always learn the worst BS from each other. I hope this time at least they can learn from each others mistakes.

Yep. I made the decision to convert in Canada. That being said I'm not yet baptized

Hmm maybe I congratulated you too soon, you seem to have left the frying pan just to jump into the fire.

[genkaus]

We believe that hell and heaven both have god in them (as you know . . . god is everywhere) The only difference is that those who love God will enjoy being with god and those who hate god won't be able to stand the presence of God and will therefore "gnash their teeth." That will be the greatest punishment possible.
Also we believe that if we pray for the dead, they will be forgiven and if they regret their hatred they will enjoy the same things as the faithful enjoy.

"Greatest punishment possible"? Really? That would show an amazing lack of imagination on your god's part.

First of all, if your god is everywhere - and that includes this world - then it should be clear that people who hate him don't go around "gnashing their teeth" due to his presence.
Secondly, you are forgetting the third option here - people who don't give a shit. To them, your god being present or absent makes even less of a difference.
Thirdly, the statement "if they regret their hatred they will enjoy the same things as the faithful enjoy" betrays narrow-mindedness. "You like having a lot of sex, do you? Well, I hope you get a personality transplant and start liking singing praises of god instead" - that is, effectively, what you are saying. Those people neither need to change their likes nor do they want to - so why would you want them to? Different people like different things, deal with it.
Fourthly, your notion of hell invalidates one of the reasons to believe in it in the first place - the idea of justice in afterlife.

So, to conclude, even if your beliefs about god and afterlife were true, there is still no reason for anyone to change their attitude towards them. I could remain an atheist in life who thinks your god as conceived is immoral, corrupt and a vile piece of shit and go around sinning in whatever ways I want to. Then, when I get to the afterlife, I'd think - "Huh, so god is real. And he is immoral, corrupt and a vile piece of shit" - then I'd merrily go off to hell where I'm sure to find others like me whose company I'd enjoy and be rid of the faithful singing Kumbaya in heaven. And in hell, I'd enjoy myself for the rest of the eternity.

[Vivalarevolution]

More importantly, why do you think hinduism is wrong?

I'll get back to you on that in a few hours

[The Grand Nudger]

No hurry buddy. Give it some deep thought.

[Vivalarevolution]

We believe that hell and heaven both have god in them (as you know . . . god is everywhere) The only difference is that those who love God will enjoy being with god and those who hate god won't be able to stand the presence of God and will therefore "gnash their teeth." That will be the greatest punishment possible.
Also we believe that if we pray for the dead, they will be forgiven and if they regret their hatred they will enjoy the same things as the faithful enjoy.

"Greatest punishment possible"? Really? That would show an amazing lack of imagination on your god's part.

First of all, if your god is everywhere - and that includes this world - then it should be clear that people who hate him don't go around "gnashing their teeth" due to his presence.
Secondly, you are forgetting the third option here - people who don't give a shit. To them, your god being present or absent makes even less of a difference.
Thirdly, the statement "if they regret their hatred they will enjoy the same things as the faithful enjoy" betrays narrow-mindedness. "You like having a lot of sex, do you? Well, I hope you get a personality transplant and start liking singing praises of god instead" - that is, effectively, what you are saying. Those people neither need to change their likes nor do they want to - so why would you want them to? Different people like different things, deal with it.
Fourthly, your notion of hell invalidates one of the reasons to believe in it in the first place - the idea of justice in afterlife.

So, to conclude, even if your beliefs about god and afterlife were true, there is still no reason for anyone to change their attitude towards them. I could remain an atheist in life who thinks your god as conceived is immoral, corrupt and a vile piece of shit and go around sinning in whatever ways I want to. Then, when I get to the afterlife, I'd think - "Huh, so god is real. And he is immoral, corrupt and a vile piece of shit" - then I'd merrily go off to hell where I'm sure to find others like me whose company I'd enjoy and be rid of the faithful singing Kumbaya in heaven. And in hell, I'd enjoy myself for the rest of the eternity.

Umm . . . Okay?
I didn't try to convert you or anyone else. I just answered what orthodox believe about hell and sin.
Sooo. . . Chill? I guess? Too much hot air

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No hurry buddy. Give it some deep thought.

No its because I'm going to be busy from lunch to evening.

[genkaus]

Simply putting it . . . Sin diverts us from our ultimate aim of being god like (note- not being god)
sin, according to what we believe, is a disease/ condition in which we lack the grace of God ( that means god still loves us but is disappointed. Therefore sin keeps us far from god. Believing in christ, confessing and other sacraments allow us to reunite with god

Except, I don't want to be "god-like" - whatever that may entail. I don't accept that as my ultimate aim. I don't care about having "grace of god" and I do want to be as far from him as possible. So, from my point of view, 'sin' is not the disease, the 'desire to be god-like' is.

I would choose to go into God's presence knowing I've done the best I could to achieve theosis (becoming god like) instead of having to hang my head in shame. What's the difference between being in hell where we are troubled by gods presence, and being in heaven where we feel we've betrayed someone who loves us no matter what.

What about those who are not troubled by your god's presence and those who raise their heads in pride of being as different from your god as possible?

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But think about meeting loved ones, hearing the stories of a billion other humans, chat with god, traverse the multiverses, work with others in projects ( i dont know what)eat, sleep and enjoy doing everything you wanted to do. And then after a trillion trillion trillion years we'll still have lots to do because god is infinite and he has created everything and can create in the future.

Apart from "chat with god" part, I don't see why the same options won't be available to those in hell.

[Vivalarevolution]

No hurry buddy. Give it some deep thought.

But to give a short and concise answer, it's not that I thought hinduism was wrong. It's that I found Christianity to be more true. (My opinion) I read the bible, with open eyes. I was shocked seeing the difference between jesus in the new testament, and god in the old testament. But I read both sides of the arguments- the atheist and Christian. I read it again, and accepted that as Jesus was a part of the holy trinity, and therefore god; the things done in the old testament, while never being compatible with what I would do, were part of judgement on gods part. It doesn't happen now and I'm thankful. But its basically reading the gospels and letters that got me into it

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Again Genkaus, I never forced you to believe in anything. Hell I wasn't even talking with you.
You don't want to be god like- fine. When did I force you to do anything?
You will be proud to stand against god. I don't care.
My original answer was in context for orthodox Christians

[Aoi Magi]

I am not sure how to react to that decision, but I hope you do find a good psychiatrist soon.