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Miracle Healing is Faux
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote: You will be glad to hear that I agree with all you in at-least one matter - that Miracle Healing is faux. I'ts a case of Satan casting out Satan. Let me elaborate.

Satan himself puts the disease in a person and then through false ministers, takes the disease out. That is the reason Satan cannot heal amputees.

God, on the other hand, can do anything - grow limbs, bring a person back from dead, etc. This is only possible if you give yourself completely to Lord Jesus Christ.

You went too far there boy.
You were quite convincing as a Christian up till then.

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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
I hesitate to even bring this up.....

Why god cannot heal amputees? Well... he did, once.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
There's something wrong with the OP's stance, but I can't put my finger on it. I can't get my arms around the problem or get a leg up on it.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote: You will be glad to hear that I agree with all you in at-least one matter - that Miracle Healing is faux. I'ts a case of Satan casting out Satan. Let me elaborate.

Satan himself puts the disease in a person and then through false ministers, takes the disease out. That is the reason Satan cannot heal amputees.

God, on the other hand, can do anything - grow limbs, bring a person back from dead, etc. This is only possible if you give yourself completely to Lord Jesus Christ.

Actually we don't agree. Miracle heeling is fake not because it is not a miracle, but because there is no such thing as miracle.

When your God can be demonstrated to exist, ask him to regrow a limb without appropriating the works of men.
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#16
RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
(October 26, 2014 at 11:15 pm)FifthElement Wrote:
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote:

I'm calling bullshit here ...

Are you claiming that there was not one amputee in a history of the man kind who gave himself completely to Jesus ?

I'm gonna go out of limb here (pun intended) and guess if you are not complete (missing limb or something) you just simply cannot give yourself completely Tongue
Bullshit call accepted. That is exactly what christians believe. If you have the faith of a mustard seed you can move mountains. I don't know how many times I have been told this or another way, give your problems to christ, they will be taken away.

This god they claim is real cannot fix the human being...yet he created it?
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
(October 26, 2014 at 10:18 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote: You will be glad to hear that I agree with all you in at-least one matter - that Miracle Healing is faux. I'ts a case of Satan casting out Satan. Let me elaborate.

Satan himself puts the disease in a person and then through false ministers, takes the disease out. That is the reason Satan cannot heal amputees.

God, on the other hand, can do anything - grow limbs, bring a person back from dead, etc. This is only possible if you give yourself completely to Lord Jesus Christ.

Can God make silly people stop spreading fairy tales?


How can God actually have more power and wisdom than the idiotic wish thinking ignoramus who is imagining him?
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#18
RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote: Satan himself puts the disease in a person and then through false ministers, takes the disease out. That is the reason Satan cannot heal amputees.

God, on the other hand, can do anything - grow limbs, bring a person back from dead, etc. This is only possible if you give yourself completely to Lord Jesus Christ.

Take home message: God is not great, yet Satan is. Duly noted.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote: You will be glad to hear that I agree with all you in at-least one matter - that Miracle Healing is faux. I'ts a case of Satan casting out Satan. Let me elaborate.

Satan himself puts the disease in a person and then through false ministers, takes the disease out. That is the reason Satan cannot heal amputees.

God, on the other hand, can do anything - grow limbs, bring a person back from dead, etc. This is only possible if you give yourself completely to Lord Jesus Christ.

i cant wrap a limb or a rib around this...
so god is god on what basis. when the kill ration between
him and the devil are as follows.

god K(kills) 2,821,364 D(deaths) 1 R(resurrections used) 1
devil K 10 (by betting against god) 0 R 0
considering how Job felt with god...
god <- so obviously evil yet people praise him for doing minor good things and forgive the rest.
devil <- does good things people talk shit about him and even god hates him. gifted humanity fire and actually does more than god to help people even though he wasn't in the bible that lone. he also tried to stop jesus from doing a uneeded sacrafice. the devil knows more about god than humanity and knows that god is evil. so to say the devil is without reading further into and say i know god you really don't.
Satan

•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.
•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.
•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.
•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.

Their is not much known about Satan and his side of the story. Why was God trying to keep knowledge from us? The knowledge of good and evil? With out it we have no choices. No opposites just one path. Maybe God is the deceiver and Satan was trying to expose him. Kind of like how we are trying to expose the powers that be and they are calling us terrorist.

when people think of satan as the form of ultimate evil they are wrong. he is a much stricter being than god. he gave us the free will because god wouldn't and god is lair. satan doesn't want death and blood filling the streets god loves that. so point being satan is actually the hero that we never wanted but we need that's if this is all true.
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The miracle I see is after creating the almost inconceivably amount of stupid to stuff into drippy, God apparently needed little rest before he was able to create another set for "Christian". That's omnipotence right there.
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