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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 7:45 pm
(October 26, 2014 at 9:46 pm)Christian Wrote: You will be glad to hear that I agree with all you in at-least one matter - that Miracle Healing is faux. I'ts a case of Satan casting out Satan. Let me elaborate.
Satan himself puts the disease in a person and then through false ministers, takes the disease out. That is the reason Satan cannot heal amputees.
God, on the other hand, can do anything - grow limbs, bring a person back from dead, etc. This is only possible if you give yourself completely to Lord Jesus Christ.
And yet those who have given themselves entirely to Jebus still can't achieve any form of healing.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm
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Oh no, you guys got me all wrong.  hock:
I said that Christ CAN heal amputees, but I never said he HAS. All the miracle healing carried out till-to-date are Satan's doings. He puts the disease and injury in the person and then takes it out to convince people that a miracle occurred. Jesus will heal everyone in due time, just not now.
You guys missed the crux of my posts. See this is the root of all your problems. You half read something, make your own assumptions and conclude that your assumption is factual and unwavering. Similarly, in the context of the Holy Bible, you take verses out of context, assume that your misunderstanding of the verse is correct and conclude that God does not exist. The difference between us Christians and you Atheists is that we read and understand things, and you misread and misunderstand things. 
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 8:02 pm
(October 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Christian Wrote: Oh no, you guys got me all wrong. hock:
I said that Christ CAN heal amputees, but I never said he HAS. All the miracle healing carried out till-to-date are Satan's doings. He puts the disease and injury in the person and then takes it out to convince people that a miracle occurred. Jesus will heal everyone in due time, just not now.
You guys missed the crux of my posts. See this is the root of all your problems. You half read something, make your own assumptions and conclude that your assumption is factual and unwavering. Similarly, in the context of the Holy Bible, you take verses out of context, assume that your misunderstanding of the verse is correct and conclude that God does not exist. The difference between us Christians and you Atheists is that we read and understand things, and you misread and misunderstand things.
Always the same nonsense that I've heard so many times before. You don't understand the bible, you read it wrong and take it out of context, etc, etc.
Some parts are very clear and aren't open for interpretation: the value of women, how to treat slaves, etc. Other parts are so damned vague they can be interpreted any way the reader wants (and usually by the believer to fit his worldview and opinions). Other parts are just completely ignored by the theists who think those parts shouldn't apply to them.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 8:08 pm
(October 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Christian Wrote: Oh no, you guys got me all wrong. hock:
I said that Christ CAN heal amputees, but I never said he HAS. All the miracle healing carried out till-to-date are Satan's doings. He puts the disease and injury in the person and then takes it out to convince people that a miracle occurred. Jesus will heal everyone in due time, just not now.
You guys missed the crux of my posts. See this is the root of all your problems. You half read something, make your own assumptions and conclude that your assumption is factual and unwavering. Similarly, in the context of the Holy Bible, you take verses out of context, assume that your misunderstanding of the verse is correct and conclude that God does not exist. The difference between us Christians and you Atheists is that we read and understand things, and you misread and misunderstand things. Honey, if Jesus hasn't cured a missing limb, there's no evidence he can. And the Bible contains many healings expressly attributed to Jesus and his disciples (see Acts). Current Christians differ as to whether he continues to heal. But no where in the Bible does it say he won't heal people since his death and purported resurrection.
There is no evidence of god or a god/man named Jesus.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 10:54 pm
Sometimes you wonder if they're serious or trolling huh...miracles.
Get laid man...Jesus. Like, make that your miracle for now.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 10:57 pm
(October 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Christian Wrote: Oh no, you guys got me all wrong. hock:
I said that Christ CAN heal amputees, but I never said he HAS. All the miracle healing carried out till-to-date are Satan's doings. He puts the disease and injury in the person and then takes it out to convince people that a miracle occurred. Jesus will heal everyone in due time, just not now.
You guys missed the crux of my posts. See this is the root of all your problems. You half read something, make your own assumptions and conclude that your assumption is factual and unwavering. Similarly, in the context of the Holy Bible, you take verses out of context, assume that your misunderstanding of the verse is correct and conclude that God does not exist. The difference between us Christians and you Atheists is that we read and understand things, and you misread and misunderstand things. There's a context in which slavery is okay? Lets hear this!
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 11:06 pm
(October 28, 2014 at 10:57 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There's a context in which slavery is okay? Lets hear this!
slavery ain't OK, in no context...
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 28, 2014 at 11:13 pm
(October 28, 2014 at 11:06 pm)Christian Wrote: (October 28, 2014 at 10:57 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There's a context in which slavery is okay? Lets hear this!
slavery ain't OK, in no context...
Your god seems to think it is.
bible Wrote:However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
bible Wrote:If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
There's More!
Quote:
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Quote: When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Oh look there is new testament too!
Quote: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Quote:Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
Even jesus endorsed it!
Quote: The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Yeah. Bible is very clear on that. Oh and those are in context too.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Miracle Healing is Faux
October 29, 2014 at 3:49 am
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(October 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Christian Wrote: Oh no, you guys got me all wrong. hock:
I said that Christ CAN heal amputees, but I never said he HAS.
So then how do you know that he can?
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