How about justice?

[Jackalope]

If this life is all there is, then people can strive for justice, but cannot realistically hope to achieve it.

That distasteful reality isn't a reason to believe in god.

Not to mention, that if it were someone's reason for believing, it would be a fallacious appeal to consequence.

[FatAndFaithless]

"I believe because I just don't like the other conclusion."

[The Valkyrie]

What fallacy does this fall under?

If the murderer isn't caught before his death he technically gets away with it, yes.

If he gets caught he is tried and sentenced according to the laws of the nation he is in.

Death is the great equalizer.

On the opposing side. Millions of Jews are slaughtered by Hitler. Because they don't accept Jesus they're sent to suffer in hell. But, before he dies, Hitler seeks forgiveness, accepts Jesus, etc, and is automatically elevated to heaven.

How is that justice?

[abaris]

The fiendish murderer gets off completely free after he blows up innocent people with himself.
Yet, I know you guys have a strong sense of justice.
It comes out in your posts.
In a world seen thru the lens of atheism, how does ultimate justice have any meaning?
Doesn't the terrorist's cheating his due reward grate at your thinking?
Doesn't deep down inside you scream that something is wrong?

According to that skewed logic George W Bush would inherit the kingdom with flying colors, because he always waved the bible and embraced baby Jesus.

I'm fine with secular justice, when it's actually served.

[Faith No More]

"I believe because I just don't like the other conclusion."

It think it's more, "My conclusion is right, because it is prettier."

[Neo-Scholastic]

If this life is all there is, then people can strive for justice, but cannot realistically hope to achieve it.

That distasteful reality isn't a reason to believe in god.

No one said it was.

[Esquilax]

If this life is all there is, then people can strive for justice, but cannot realistically hope to achieve it.

Said someone who obviously doesn't see any moral good in the pursuit of justice for its own sake.

That's what I find so odd about a certain type of christian theist; they'll extoll all these virtues, talk about humility and justice and truth and morality, but the moment they're asked to consider a universe in which they don't have an all powerful magic genie helping them achieve those virtues, they throw up their hands and give up. It's like they don't see any worth in the concepts themselves, or anything virtuous about striving for them alone.

But if the only justice you care about is the one automatically handed to you without having to do a damn thing for it, then you don't care about justice at all.

[Neo-Scholastic]

If this life is all there is, then people can strive for justice, but cannot realistically hope to achieve it.

Said someone who obviously doesn't see any moral good in the pursuit of justice for its own sake. ...

Do you have anything to counter what I actually said or do you just like to hear yourself type?

[FatAndFaithless]

There isn't much to counter, Chad. You're saying that humans can't achievement perfect justice, and that's just a fact. We can't be everywhere at all times watching everything and judging those things. Unless you're trying to connect that fact to a God somehow, there's really no substance to your statement beyond "the world isn't perfect".

[professor]

Well, I wasn't looking to compare your outlooks with anything else.
Thanks for the replies though.