Judgement day defense strageity [sic] Pt. 2

[The Grand Nudger]

Ammit, lol.

[Mystic]

To me any other God would be cold and unjust, so I would rather not be apart of that god's eternity.
That is why our answers differ in the way that it does.

The only difference between our answers would be the word "other". However, by what standards? Your own? Why should that matter? Your standard is irrelevant and baseless. The authority that has damned you has set the standard. It is just, it cannot be cold. These are simply your own misunderstandings. I think that your god is cold and unjust....but how many times have you argued against that statement-with me- (not to mention others)? Are you granting yourself (and your god) some claim that you would not allow me (and my lack thereof)? That seems rather convenient.......

I didn't quite say the God is unjust but said I think God is greater then what it he says, and he keeps brushing it off as it could be a misunderstanding. I would think if he misunderstood God's greatness and didn't believe a claim about him believing God would be greater, then God would forgive us for a mistake.

I don't know how bad a god has to be not to forgive people for these type of mistakes in judgement when all they are is high expectations of greatness from our relative perspective of what it means to be great.

[The Grand Nudger]

How bad would a god have to be to do that? No better or worse than any human being, which is unsurprising, to me anyway. What is there to forgive in this example (of not believing, or believing the wrong thing) anyway? What damage has been done, who has been harmed? Why is forgiveness even something we would wonder about in this context? When people call me by someone else's name or send my mail to my neighbors address I don't exactly expect them to stand before me in apology, hoping for forgiveness - let alone in some situation where my refusal to give forgiveness or their refusal to seek it (or an inability on either part to grant or seek the same- for any reason) results in some sort of hellish torment or punitive action -of any kind-.

The whole thing - from the floor to the ceiling- is fucking ridiculous. If we're talking about great gods (and betwixt you and I - we most certainly would be, we both want to maintain high standards in this area) I don't think that any god who's in the business of punitive measure and forgiveness over a discrepency of name, particulars, circumstance, or holy writ needs even apply. There is no "forgiving would make god greater", to me. Even considering forgiveness in this context as a necessity or something to be desired makes god as small as he can humanely be - point of fact, as small as we humanly -are-. That god, the one who burns people for getting his name wrong - is flipping burgers at the McDivinity while more competent deities handle all the heavy lifting and thought.

The people who eagerly do that gods bidding -are even worse-. At least "god" has an excuse, we wrote it as a dunce, a simpleton, a moral midget. It was beyond "his" control. For those who've been washed in the blood....it's a choice they've made. It's one thing to be a fictional dick, after all - and entirely another to be the guy who argues the point of how great said dick is. Any of our musing about this will be rejected, pof course, as they have been before. Apparently, the only person allowed to make subjective statements about the merit or worth of a god is Drich. Which is convenient for Drichs god I suppose, being an avatar of Drich in any case.

[Drich]

To me any other God would be cold and unjust, so I would rather not be apart of that god's eternity.
That is why our answers differ in the way that it does.

The only difference between our answers would be the word "other". However, by what standards? Your own? Why should that matter? Your standard is irrelevant and baseless. The authority that has damned you has set the standard. It is just, it cannot be cold. These are simply your own misunderstandings. I think that your god is cold and unjust....but how many times have you argued against that statement-with me- (not to mention others)? Are you granting yourself (and your god) some claim that you would not allow me (and my lack thereof)? That seems rather convenient.......

My standards are the same method many of you use to judge the God of the bible a blood thirsty tyrant, and as such can not worship Him.
So 'my standard' is as every bit as valid as yours from a general world view.

It just so happens that 'My standards' are indeed based off the God of the bible and as such I will not serve another God. If some other god has placed the bible in the world to screen out or sift people then I gladly count myself amongest the sifted out. Because from the values I see in the bible I can judge any other god as unjust. As a result I do not want to be apart of any spiritual soceity that the God of the bible is not Heading up.

[Cyberman]

Bye then.

[genkaus]

So 'my standard' is as every bit as valid as yours from a general world view.

Circular reasoning is not valid, you know?

It just so happens that 'My standards' are indeed based off the God of the bible and as such I will not serve another God. .... Because from the values I see in the bible I can judge any other god as unjust.

And you don't see the circular reasoning here?

[The Grand Nudger]

My standards are the same method many of you use to judge the God of the bible a blood thirsty tyrant, and as such can not worship Him.

-those are the standards that you've said, many times - aren't sufficient, relevant, or applicable. Ultimately, your "standards" don't have to toe the line to my positions. They should, however, toe the line to your own.

So 'my standard' is as every bit as valid as yours from a general world view.

Not according to you. Who are you, Drich...to judge a god?