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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 11:45 am
Here's a list of transitionals; this is just reptiles to mammals. The other transitions are at least as well-represented: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-tran....html#mamm
Anyone wanting to learn about evolution by natural selection would do well to bookmark Talkorigins.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 6:04 pm
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Ok I put a different post here originally but as soon as I posted it I realized that there had been a bunch of new replies.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 6:43 pm
I'm digging a god-believer rocking a Slayer av.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 7:01 pm
1. I F****n love slayer.
2.I'm just gonna accept defeat against everything Chas says. I swear that guy posts on every single post on this site and I just do not have enough free time to go back and forth against him.
I'm heading to work. Hopefully I'll have time to respond in the next couple of days.
"My life has taught me that true spiritual insight can come about only through direct experience, the way a severe burn can be attained only by putting your hand in the fire. Faith is nothing more than a watered-down attempt to accept someone else's insight as your own." -Damien Echols
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 7:06 pm
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Well, I'm more of a Sepultura person myself, but in the interest of civil debate, I'll let that one slide 
(November 2, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Rob216 Wrote: 1. I F****n love slayer.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 7:14 pm
We're getting a lot of these misinformed people around here, this November...
I'm afraid, we'll burn through them and won't have any new chew toys for Christmas.... ahem.... Winter Solstice!
Darwin was an old bugger from the XIX century... You should evolve: Modern evolutionary synthesis.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 7:17 pm
(November 2, 2014 at 1:35 am)Rob216 Wrote: If you disagree with what I said or think that I'm not educated enough on the topic that's fine because the point of debating is to bring arguments to the conversation to enlighten your opponents.
Sorry to nitpick but actually it's not. It's generally about convincing a wider audience as to the validity of your claims and subsequent evidence. Convincing your opponent might just be a bonus.
ToE seeks to explain a fact (evolution). I noticed in one of your earlier poste you made reference to the factor of time and the relative evolutionary dominance of humans in a small time compared to other species that have been around for millions of years more.
It may have been highlighted already but it doesn't make sense to talk about one species as 'more evolved' than another. We're all a product of the evolutionary pressures to adapt to the environments we find ourselves in, and hence species that do that and do adapt gain the greater chance to survive relative to those that don't.
But as others have suggested, it'd be really good if you want to learn more about it to do so in a professional educative environment. Evolution is complex but needless to say it's the foundation of an entire field of natural science be as such could never be summarized to a parsimonious degree necessary to elucidate properly. THe evidence out there for TOE is overwhelming and very well documented.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 9:32 pm
(November 2, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Rob216 Wrote: 1. I F****n love slayer.
2.I'm just gonna accept defeat against everything Chas says. I swear that guy posts on every single post on this site and I just do not have enough free time to go back and forth against him.
I'm heading to work. Hopefully I'll have time to respond in the next couple of days.
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However, if you post more misunderstandings and misinformation on evolution, I will be there to correct you. Count on it.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 10:30 pm
(November 1, 2014 at 3:16 am)Rob216 Wrote: *Note: This is not a religious debate. This is a scientific debate about my opinion of Darwin's theory of evolution.
Most reasonable people agree on a few principles:
1. That everything has a beginning and an end.
2. That by observing repeatable occurrences the laws of physics are true.
3. That "universal logic" is applicable to determining facts (Example: I cannot exist and not exist simultaneously)
I hope that we can all agree that evolution and adaptation do exist in nature. All living creatures (animals and plants alike) can adapt to conditions over time. My argument is that Darwin's theory of evolution cannot be true because there has never been scientific proof of any one species adapting over time to be categorized as another species.
Bacteria evolves into bacteria, fish evolve into fish, primates evolve into primates, etc. Sorry but your flat wrong on this count
http://www.nature.com/news/yeast-suggest...ife-1.9810
Quote: Ok, I'll argue against my own statement above and say that species can evolve into other species. I'll say that humans evolved from an ape-like creature that evolved from a mammal that evolved from a reptile-like or amphibian-like creature (depending on if you believe that our origins are ocean based or land based) that evolved from bacteria that evolved from a single-cell organism. My issue with this is that 1. The single-cell organism would have had to have the ability to create itself.
Um what? You do know that single-celled life wasn't really the first life first off. First life was simply sell replicating proteins.
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or 2. That organic life was created from inorganic materials.
While somewhat true it is more accurate to say that Organic life came from organic materials that originally came from inorganic material. Now organically material becoming organic material is something that has been observed and experimentally proven, again and again.
Quote: Both of these statements sound illogical because in order for something to be scientifically proven the conditions have to be tested and repeatable to be agreed upon as fact.
They sound illogical because you state them with very little knowledge on the topic at hand, hence your repetition sounds illogical, when the underlying facts are not.
Quote: As far as we know there is and has never been a new organism that created itself because that organism would first have to have the conscience to know that it is, in fact, creating itself.
Um no it would not, I am struggling to understand why you would even that conscience intent is needed?
Quote: There has also never been any successful experiments that have proven that organic life can be created from inorganic materials.
Thats because it wasn't
Quote: [/font][/size]I look forward to everybody's opinion on this. Please don't use religion bashing or science bashing as the basis for your opinion because, honestly, you'll just come off as stupid.
Excuse me? Your going to come here as a christian and tell us what and what not to say?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Scientific Debate: Why I assert that Darwin's theory of evolution is false
November 2, 2014 at 10:52 pm
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I'm not a Christian but thanks for not being prejudice (smh)
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