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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 11:31 am
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All conveniently dead..lol. I'm sticking with it man, I think he means genus and doesn't realize it.
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 11:36 am
(November 17, 2014 at 11:28 am)Esquilax Wrote: But then that'd include all those older, more primitive Homo species, which I'm sure the creationists won't like. We have to be specially created exactly as we are now, after all. 
They simply look the other way. Whenever you post some link to human fossil records, they walk over it without even a second glance.
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 12:08 pm
(November 17, 2014 at 11:31 am)Rhythm Wrote: All conveniently dead..lol. I'm sticking with it man, I think he means genus and doesn't realize it.
If he does, he means genus right up until the moment you can show a transition between genii. Then it'll mean something else. Because it's not about depicting an accurate biological system here, if it was everyone would just use the standard classification system, because it's much more detailed and widespread in use. It's about disagreeing with evolution; "kind" has no set definition because it has no connection with science, or evolution, or even reality. It's a tactic, not a description.
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 12:15 pm
(November 14, 2014 at 7:37 pm)abaris Wrote: Not that I expect any of our creationist buddies to read it, but here's what evolution is about. In this case, the common ancestor and the differences between humans and african apes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolu...y_genetics
Just to prevent the all too common, but fundamentally stupid question of why there are still apes.
The real question is why is there still water?
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 12:19 pm
(November 17, 2014 at 12:15 pm)ManMachine Wrote: The real question is why is there still water?
MM Give it a cosmic minute and ask the question again...lol.
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 1:53 pm
Is fish a "kind"?
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 1:54 pm
It's kind of fishy.....
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RE: For Creationists.
November 17, 2014 at 1:57 pm
(November 17, 2014 at 1:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's kind of fishy.....
I see what you did there.........eventually.
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RE: For Creationists.
November 18, 2014 at 5:29 am
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(November 17, 2014 at 1:53 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Is fish a "kind"?
It's vital we get to the heart of the pertinent issues in this thread, surely it's,
'Are fish a 'kind'?'
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RE: For Creationists.
November 18, 2014 at 2:40 pm
(November 15, 2014 at 5:53 pm)professor Wrote: Well, this has truly evolved (the kind of evolution I can believe in).
I was asked about "Kinds", the word and concept predates the culture of evolution by several hundred years.
Lately, the naturalists are confused by what it means.
When you go to get an ice cream, you are asked what KIND you want.
You specify vanilla and you do not get chocolate.
Neither do they become one or the other over millions of years.
If you have a dog, you might be asked what KIND of dog you have?
Pretty simple isn't it.
The genetic code is what? Silly putty?
This ridiculous quote is now up on the Fundies Say The Darndest Things website ( http://www.fstdt.net), where it is getting some proper ridicule.
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