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MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
Advanced as that, eh?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
The thing that I really am interested in is how much people really believe, compared to their professed beliefs. Their actions often make it clear that on a fundamental level, their instincts do not believe it. But if their instincts matched their supposed beliefs, I would have no doubt in labelling that person mentally ill.

So... I don't know how to phrase it other than they are on a sliding scale between lying and mentally ill. I suppose you have to make allowance for the fact that they may not be aware they are lying. But what would you call that other than delusional/mentally ill?

I'm not trying to be mean here, but realistically I cannot see another way to describe what I see. Can anyone help me out?

I'm also not saying it's their fault, people can be driven to be mentally ill by the way people treat them.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
@robvalue,

Have you read Dennetts "Breaking the Spell", it might contain some things that interest you

(December 16, 2014 at 5:40 am)robvalue Wrote: The thing that I really am interested in is how much people really believe, compared to their professed beliefs. Their actions often make it clear that on a fundamental level, their instincts do not believe it. But if their instincts matched their supposed beliefs, I would have no doubt in labelling that person mentally ill.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
No I've not, thanks for the recommendation Smile
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
Just wanted to commend the mods for getting all the shit into one bin. Surprised you found one big enough.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
Haha yeah, good job guys!

I think until one single point has been established even partially, let alone beyond reasonable doubt, there's no need for more threads. And call me a pessimist if you want, but it's not going to happen is it.

However, HM seems to be deciding for us whether we are convinced. If one person on the forum has been convinced of anything they weren't already convinced of by this, I'd be interested to hear about it.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
(December 16, 2014 at 8:18 am)robvalue Wrote: If one person on the forum has been convinced of anything they weren't already convinced of by this, I'd be interested to hear about it.

I wouldn't know. I don't read his posts. I'm just here for the piling on and so forth. Pretty sure he enjoys it as much as we do.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
(December 16, 2014 at 4:29 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: That's the problem though, Rob. They think they are new, and they're original and they're special for discovering/arguing them.

Well, they are special ... just not in the way that they'd like to think.

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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
(December 16, 2014 at 9:05 am)whateverist Wrote:
(December 16, 2014 at 8:18 am)robvalue Wrote: If one person on the forum has been convinced of anything they weren't already convinced of by this, I'd be interested to hear about it.

I wouldn't know. I don't read his posts. I'm just here for the piling on and so forth. Pretty sure he enjoys it as much as we do.

Course he does.

We'd be best of friends we all followed suit and got a lobotomy.

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