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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 7:52 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2014 at 8:55 pm by dyresand.)
even family guy is pointing out how stupid claims for jesus are.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 8:23 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 5:11 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: ...Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
...Have you ever been behind the sun? So how do you know that my God isn't behind the sun?? There is no way you can wiggle out of it, either...you've never been behind the sun, so you simply don't know...plain and simple...so for you to sit there and make these absolute statements, these claims of knowledge, is fallacious.
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Again, these are the rules we play by in every area of life outside your favorite religious beliefs. Otherwise, you would be compelled to consider countless possibilities that you have no time to consider.
A man who hears voices or speaks to people who aren't there is considered to be crazy. It's not required that we prove the voices aren't real unseen spirits or that there isn't an invisible bunny rabbit to put such a man away.
It's called "the null hypothesis". X is assumed to not exist until proven otherwise. It is always within the bounds of rational skepticism to say "X doesn't exist" where there is no evidence for X. Those who believe in X are compelled to provide evidence for X's existence. Saying "Oh yeah, well prove X doesn't exist" is a classic shifting of the burden of proof.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 8:25 pm
Quote:Have you ever been behind the sun?
Yes. And so have you, moron. In fact the whole planet goes around it EVERY FUCKING YEAR.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 8:38 pm
Perhaps he means like in that horrible movie Gamera vs Guiron. Same orbit but on the other side of the sun.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Have you ever been behind the sun?
Yes. And so have you, moron. In fact the whole planet goes around it EVERY FUCKING YEAR.
Perhaps behind the moon then? Ooooh, I know! The face on the moon!
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 9:08 pm
H_M is seriously positing a god that hides behind the Sun? Just because he can't think of a way to demonstrate that it exists outside his book and his head? Why are we still listening to this guy? He's about two steps away from ricky's territory at this point.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 9:12 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm)Spooky Wrote: Perhaps behind the moon then? Ooooh, I know! The face on the moon!
I'll jump in and say this before someone else does. We've been around the Moon thousands of times in the last forty-odd years. Not us personally, but astronauts and sundry unmanned vehicles. It's at least as plausible a hiding place as any, though.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 9:20 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 5:23 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Hey, I have no problems admitting that the 2 billion Christians in this world could be wrong...but they again, they also could be right If they agreed on every point, perhaps. There are three arguments we get from Christians pretty regularly. One is some version of "two billion people can't be wrong" and the other is some version of "but most of them aren't True Christians."
The third argument is some version of Pascal's Wager, which is particularly hilarious in light of the tens of thousands of different versions of Christianity alone. So no, they can't be right. There might not even be a scenario in which half of them are right. But all of them could definitely be wrong.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 9:24 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 8:45 pm)Spooky Wrote: (December 15, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yes. And so have you, moron. In fact the whole planet goes around it EVERY FUCKING YEAR.
Perhaps behind the moon then? Ooooh, I know! The face on the moon!
Nah, the only thing on the dark side of the moon, apart from the obvious, is a crashed cow after it crashed . . .
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 15, 2014 at 9:25 pm
There is no dark side of the moon, as a matter of fact, it's all dark.
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