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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 4:53 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 3:09 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 3:08 pm)Spooky Wrote: After rereading post #1, I have to agree. I remain unconvinced.
On which page did you choose to reread post #1? You have many from which to choose.
Heh, Page #1, post #1 as this thread is currently set up. The word superstition is used three times in the original post. Not the word I'd use to state a "Case".
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 4:59 pm
Just remind me... What reason do I have to think the stories in this book are any more real than any other story book? That would be a good start. Also, if the stories even made sense it would be helpful.
A five year old could write a more coherent narrative.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:04 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 3:17 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 3:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: After humiliating himself on this thread and failing to prove any of his claims, all he has left is to provoke a banning so he can claim persecution.
This.
This is exactly what he will do.
He'll then run to various Christian sites and claim he was banned when the atheists couldn't answer his questions or dispute his "facts".
He's displayed dishonesty here, why would he do anything different on other sites?
I won't be surprised - it wouldn't be first time.
I can only say this - in my tenure here, *no one* has ever been banned for expressing an opinion, making an argument, or anything of the kind. Being disruptive, yes, plenty of times.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:11 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 3:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 3:03 pm)whateverist Wrote: Hopefully Majestic_Folly will suck it up and soldier on. Our souls aren't going to save themselves you know.
After humiliating himself on this thread and failing to prove any of his claims, all he has left is to provoke a banning so he can claim persecution.
Does seem the Christian thing to do.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:25 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 5:11 pm)whateverist Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 3:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: After humiliating himself on this thread and failing to prove any of his claims, all he has left is to provoke a banning so he can claim persecution.
Does seem the Christian thing to do.
I'm sure it will sound better when he tells the story of his harrowing trip into the lion's den to his Christian forum.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:25 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 5:11 pm)whateverist Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 3:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: After humiliating himself on this thread and failing to prove any of his claims, all he has left is to provoke a banning so he can claim persecution.
Does seem the Christian thing to do.
The other christian thing to do is to cower in fear and use degrading tactics such as playing dumb and or the lalalala i cant hear anything tactic.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 4:59 pm)robvalue Wrote: Just remind me... What reason do I have to think the stories in this book are any more real than any other story book? That would be a good start. Also, if the stories even made sense it would be helpful.
A five year old could write a more coherent narrative.
Quick rundown of the corroborating evidence for the NT (there is absolutely none for the OT):
- Tacitus: 2nd century oblique reference to a "Christos" (messiah) revered by Christians who was crucified by Pilate.
- Seutonius: A "Chrestus" disrupted things in Rome circa 50 CE, not likely Jesus considering wrong name, wrong place and wrong time but that doesn't stop the apologists from padding the resume.
- Josephus: A laughable forgery with the TF, a paragraph where he breaks off from what he's talking about to quickly fire off all the beliefs Christians have in bullet point format only to strangely return to the topic he was discussing in the next paragraph.
- Josephus: A brief "Jamesian reference" where he says "Brother of Jesus, James". He later refers to this as Jesus Bar Damneus (son of Damneus), so not our boy.
- Talmud: Jewish writings contain a 4th century reference to A "Jesus" who was accused of sorcery in a 40 day trial. Curiously, there are no earlier references to Jesus in Jewish writings. You'd think he'd be worth a mention.
- Some alleged letters written by alleged Church Fathers which say a wild variety of things about Jesus (my favorite being that he was 50 at the crucifixion, placing his birthdate around 20 BCE.
Did I miss any?
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:34 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 5:25 pm)dyresand Wrote: The other christian thing to do is to cower in fear and use degrading tactics such as playing dumb and or the lalalala i cant hear anything tactic.
Don't forget my favorite tactic:
ABUSING THE ALL CAPS BUTTON BECAUSE VOLUME HELPS TO COMPENSATE FOR LACK OF LOGIC OR EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:34 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 5:31 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Quick rundown of the corroborating evidence for the NT (there is absolutely none for the OT):
- Tacitus: 2nd century oblique reference to a "Christos" (messiah) revered by Christians who was crucified by Pilate.
- Seutonius: A "Chrestus" disrupted things in Rome circa 50 CE, not likely Jesus considering wrong name, wrong place and wrong time but that doesn't stop the apologists from padding the resume.
- Josephus: A laughable forgery with the TF, a paragraph where he breaks off from what he's talking about to quickly fire off all the beliefs Christians have in bullet point format only to strangely return to the topic he was discussing in the next paragraph.
- Josephus: A brief "Jamesian reference" where he says "Brother of Jesus, James". He later refers to this as Jesus Bar Damneus (son of Damneus), so not our boy.
- Talmud: Jewish writings contain a 4th century reference to A "Jesus" who was accused of sorcery in a 40 day trial. Curiously, there are no earlier references to Jesus in Jewish writings. You'd think he'd be worth a mention.
- Some alleged letters written by alleged Church Fathers which say a wild variety of things about Jesus (my favorite being that he was 50 at the crucifixion, placing his birthdate around 20 BCE.
Did I miss any?
Yes, there's this.
Utterly convincing, if you ask me.
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RE: MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
December 16, 2014 at 5:34 pm
Oh no, he hasn't been banned yet? How embarrassing. I feel like a buzzard circling overhead. Sorry Majestic_One. I'll just sit on this limb over here and converse with the others until you stop thrashing.
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