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Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
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Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal, and given the fact that we are a massively multicellular organism that refreshes its cellular make-up by cell die-off and replacement every 7 years or so, could it not be that the old cellular body that I once had as a christian will go to heaven, but the cellular body that I have now, as an atheist, will go to hell? Why would god punish the old dead me for the actions of the later current me?
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 (December 10, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal, and given the fact that we are a massively multicellular organism that refreshes its cellular make-up by cell die-off and replacement every 7 years or so, could it not be that the old cellular body that I once had as a christian will go to heaven, but the cellular body that I have now, as an atheist, will go to hell? Why would god punish the old dead me for the actions of the later current me? You just want the best of both worlds. 
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" 
And since we're all star stuff...
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay." For context, this is the previous verse: "Hi Jesus" -robvalue (December 10, 2014 at 8:52 pm)Beccs Wrote:I admit it, I do! I like to mess with theist's minds as they try to comprehend that we die every day, and over a long lifetime we gradually melt away through many bodies. The primitive goat herders that wrote the bible had no clue that we were multicellular, nor did they know of any of the micro-organisms that make our biological world work. Without the micro-organisms to aid in digestion and to keep harmful microbes at bay, every bit of upper life would be dead.(December 10, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal, and given the fact that we are a massively multicellular organism that refreshes its cellular make-up by cell die-off and replacement every 7 years or so, could it not be that the old cellular body that I once had as a christian will go to heaven, but the cellular body that I have now, as an atheist, will go to hell? Why would god punish the old dead me for the actions of the later current me? Yet Genesis doesn't mention the bulk of all life. How ignorant the story is!
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Are you saying we are literally not the same people we were ten or so years ago?
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html RE: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal ..
December 10, 2014 at 9:13 pm
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(December 10, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Are you saying we are literally not the same people we were ten or so years ago? Yes, literally. So why should god punish the old dead Chad32? The Chad32 of ten years ago is just as dead as the last Chad32 will be when he dies. Why would the soul of one Chad32 have to be passed on to the next Chad32? If you were cloned, which Chad32 would get the Soul? Do identical twins get half of the original blastocyst's soul?
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I'm sure this is far deeper stuff than the Jews and gentiles of old considered when they wrote those books.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  (December 10, 2014 at 8:50 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Since Heaven and Hell are not temporal, and given the fact that we are a massively multicellular organism that refreshes its cellular make-up by cell die-off and replacement every 7 years or so, could it not be that the old cellular body that I once had as a christian will go to heaven, but the cellular body that I have now, as an atheist, will go to hell? Why would god punish the old dead me for the actions of the later current me? you are onto something and yes god by this system couldn't damn anyone to hell.
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If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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