Suicide

[Cyberman]

He didn't give his life. He supposedly respawned three days later.

[Drich]

But, He went through Hell to do it.

[Cyberman]

According to the story, perhaps. We're supposed to be impressed by that?

[The Valkyrie]

Got your attention.

Just wondering, if god knows everything and took human form intending to be crucified, is not that tantamount to suicide?

Is a mother rushing out into traffic to save a child considered suicide?
What about a soldier jumping on a grenade to save his squad?
What about a firefighter running into the second tower on 9/11 after the first one collapsed?

Like wise Christ died to save us from death/eternal.

The difference is those people doing those actions are mortals.

The deity, who is supposedly all knowing and all powerful, who could create the universe had to sacrifice itself to itself to change its own rules.

If the deity is, indeed, all powerful, it wouldn't need a blood sacrifice.

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He didn't give his life. He supposedly respawned three days later.

[Drich]

The death on the cross was a physical representation of what God went through to offer us forgiveness, so we had some idea of the cost.

[Ryantology]

Is a mother rushing out into traffic to save a child considered suicide?

If the child doesn't ask his mother to save him, is it okay if the mother makes the deliberate decision to stand there and do nothing? Is that mother a good person? Is it the child's fault that he dies?

[The Valkyrie]

The death on the cross was a physical representation of what God went through to offer us forgiveness, so we had some idea of the cost.

A few hours of suffering, extreme, I admit, then Emperor of the Universe.

I don't really call that a sacrifice.

"God" could have snapped his fingers and made his changes, and then sent down swarms of angels to tell the world all about it.

[Cyberman]

The death on the cross was a physical representation of what God went through to offer us forgiveness, so we had some idea of the cost.

And I repeat - we're supposed to be impressed by that?

[IATIA]

If the deity is, indeed, all powerful, it wouldn't need a blood sacrifice.

Nor would the deity actually be dead, in which case, Jesus never died.

[dyresand]

Got your attention.

Just wondering, if god knows everything and took human form intending to be crucified, is not that tantamount to suicide?

Suicide is not a sin, The Bible does not seem to condemn suicide. There are, I think, six accounts of suicide in the Bible, the most notorious being those of King Saul (1 Samuel 31:2-5) and Judas (Matthew 27:3-5). Others are Abimelech (Judges 9:50-54), Samson (Judges 16:23-31), Ahithophel (2 Samuel 17:23), and Zimri (1 Kings 16:15-20), god doesn't care about anyone ending their lives early or not. Quite the contrary people started the whole thing about live is precious and people feeling that way should be helped and also made it illegal to commit suicide as its a act of indecency. While god does not care humans care because well it hurts others.