God is quite the sinner himself

[dyresand]

I saw this amazing wallpaper quite the while ago, and I thought it was quite Interesting.

I completely agree, If God doesn't want you to follow other gods, that is Jealousy and Jealousy is a sin, and since God hasn't asked for forgiveness, shouldn't he be plunged into eternal hell for being a sinner?
Obviously these are hypothetical situations, as I don't believe in the existence of a God.

You do know the seven deadly sins aren't actually identified in the bible?

Look in Proverbs 6:16-1

[Minimalist]

[Drich]

You do know the seven deadly sins aren't actually identified in the bible?

Look in Proverbs 6:16-1

Two thing sport:
1) proverbs still doesn't out line "7 deadly sins"
Pro 16:16-19
16 The Lord hates these seven things:
17 eyes that show pride,
tongues that tell lies,
hands that kill innocent people,
18 hearts that plan evil things to do,
feet that run to do evil,
19 witnesses in court who tell lies,
and anyone who causes family members to fight.
2)
Proverbs are apart of what is known as the "wisdom literature" the wisdom literature are the books of songs, psalms and sayings. Saying similar the ones Ben Franklin left in poor richard's almanac. "A penny saved is a penny earned, the early bird catches the worm." Ect.. Except these saying we're penned by King Solomon. While Solomon had the wisdom of God nothing found in Proverbs is considered apart of any Law, (nt or OT) therefore is not considered sin.

At best you have seven things that God hates about man, some of which are considered to be sin.

So where did the 'seven deadly sins come from?
A fourth century monk who took the popular 8 greek sins and condensed it down to 7 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

[strawdawg]

I saw this amazing wallpaper quite the while ago, and I thought it was quite Interesting.

I completely agree, If God doesn't want you to follow other gods, that is Jealousy and Jealousy is a sin, and since God hasn't asked for forgiveness, shouldn't he be plunged into eternal hell for being a sinner?
Obviously these are hypothetical situations, as I don't believe in the existence of a God.

If God makes the rules how can it be sin?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I saw this amazing wallpaper quite the while ago, and I thought it was quite Interesting.
http://i.imgur.com/H9E773a.jpg
I completely agree, If God doesn't want you to follow other gods, that is Jealousy and Jealousy is a sin, and since God hasn't asked for forgiveness, shouldn't he be plunged into eternal hell for being a sinner?
Obviously these are hypothetical situations, as I don't believe in the existence of a God.

Not only that; compare Yahweh's actions to this, Paul's description of love:

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...nthians+13

Clearly this Yahweh fellow does not love the humans he is alleged to have created; this according to his own divinely-inspired word.

[Chad32]

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...nthians+13

Clearly this Yahweh fellow does not love the humans he is alleged to have created; this according to his own divinely-inspired word.

How nice of the bible to lay out a definition of love that their god doesn't follow. You better believe Yahweh is self seeking, and certainly easily angered in the old testament. Killing people for just about any breaking of rules, including picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week?

Keeps no records of wrongs? Then why do I need to ask forgiveness, and why does he sit and judge anyone?

He certainly doesn't protect nonbelievers from hell if they don't repent after they die. Otherwise Jesus was kind of wrong when he said he was the only way to get into heaven.

[robvalue]

God is the worst of the worst, it absolutely boggles my mind how the most evil character anyone could ever create is being held up as the standard of pure good.

But not what he does mind, what he tells us to do. He doesn't have to stick to his own rules, because he's bigger than us.

[Chad32]

It's very strange for people to think it wise to view a person's words as more important than his actions.

[Tonus]

Those that God has destroyed, it was for sin, and disobedience is only one of the sins. God is omniscient making His justice and judgement flawless.

The argument can easily be reduced to "disobedience is the ONLY sin." It is god's omnipotence that makes his justice and judgment undeniable. Accepting those makes the god of the Bible much easier to explain and rationalize: god cannot sin because he doesn't give himself orders and thus is never disobedient. His power makes his judgments immutable and thus his justice is never denied.

I get that a lot of people are made uncomfortable by that idea, and it's understandable: a god who can do anything, and yet do no wrong, is capable of justifiably committing the most horrific and unfair acts imaginable and get away with it. Not just get away with it, but his creation would not miss a step in confirming his greatness the whole time.

And that is the situation you expect to find yourself for all of eternity.

[robvalue]

Sounds just like a fascist dictator, no?