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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 18, 2014 at 10:23 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 10:19 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: No, GC, I trust what you and other Christians say about him. Judging from that, he's a monster.
Exactly god never needed to punish anyone with death he could have taught people whats right and wrong.
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 18, 2014 at 10:32 pm
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I completely agree, If God doesn't want you to follow other gods, that is Jealousy and Jealousy is a sin, and since God hasn't asked for forgiveness, shouldn't he be plunged into eternal hell for being a sinner?
Obviously these are hypothetical situations, as I don't believe in the existence of a God.
You do know the seven deadly sins aren't actually identified in the bible?
You can tell by his comments, Drich, that he doesn't know much at all about the bible. That's the problem.
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 5:10 am
(December 18, 2014 at 9:17 pm)dyresand Wrote: GC i have a question if christians became good i mean really good people and never sinned
wouldn't jesus have died for nothing since you have nothing to repent for.
Even if all Christians were able to be perfect Jesus would not have died for nothing, there are the people like you who still need forgiveness.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 5:55 am
(December 19, 2014 at 5:10 am)Godschild Wrote: (December 18, 2014 at 9:17 pm)dyresand Wrote: GC i have a question if christians became good i mean really good people and never sinned
wouldn't jesus have died for nothing since you have nothing to repent for.
Even if all Christians were able to be perfect Jesus would not have died for nothing, there are the people like you who still need forgiveness.
GC
It's a shame your god can't muster the courage to simply say, "Hey guys, here I am". You'd think if he were truly interested in saving humanfolk from the damnation that he himself laid upon them, he would either lift that damnation, or at least show up to alleviate the skeptics in the audience.
What's that? It's about faith? Well, shit, he knew before anyone was born whether they'd be a believer or not. What choice at that point did anyone have? Could they choose something that went against your god's plan?
No, your little god is a no-show, no-call scrub who'd get fired from WalMart for absenteeism (that means calling in sick too often, Rube).
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 6:03 am
And he's kinda smelly.
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 2:14 pm
(December 19, 2014 at 5:55 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: (December 19, 2014 at 5:10 am)Godschild Wrote: Even if all Christians were able to be perfect Jesus would not have died for nothing, there are the people like you who still need forgiveness.
GC
It's a shame your god can't muster the courage to simply say, "Hey guys, here I am". You'd think if he were truly interested in saving humanfolk from the damnation that he himself laid upon them, he would either lift that damnation, or at least show up to alleviate the skeptics in the audience.
What's that? It's about faith? Well, shit, he knew before anyone was born whether they'd be a believer or not. What choice at that point did anyone have? Could they choose something that went against your god's plan?
No, your little god is a no-show, no-call scrub who'd get fired from WalMart for absenteeism (that means calling in sick too often, Rube).
To bad you can't understand it's all about love, you want it to be anything but and will rationalize it as anything but love, like I said it's to bad and really sad.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 2:16 pm
But it isn't. Even by the bible's definition of love. Love is selfless by definition, which Yahweh is not.
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm
The entire idea of the blood sacrifice of the son (the alter ego of God who is able to strangely co-exist as three entities but are actually the same) to atone for the wrongdoings of others is ancient, cruel, and barbaric. The notion that we are born into original sin and are in need of forgiveness is equally repugnant.
No amount of mental gymnastics can coax my mind into the contortions necessary to believe such dark age, mythologically-inspired fiction as fact.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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RE: God is quite the sinner himself
December 19, 2014 at 10:30 pm
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(December 19, 2014 at 5:55 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: (December 19, 2014 at 5:10 am)Godschild Wrote: Even if all Christians were able to be perfect Jesus would not have died for nothing, there are the people like you who still need forgiveness.
GC
It's a shame your god can't muster the courage to simply say, "Hey guys, here I am". You'd think if he were truly interested in saving humanfolk from the damnation that he himself laid upon them,
1 billion Christians have found Him and millions of Jews, we apparently have had no problems hearing Him call "Hey guys here I am." Strange thing here, why did you use the name God calls himself? Man lays damnation on himself, God has nothing to do with that, well He does one thing He allowed His Son to be a sacrifice for man. People damn themselves and God has given people a way out.
Quote:he would either lift that damnation, or at least show up to alleviate the skeptics in the audience.
He can't shut down justice, sin has to be dealt with with and there's no time limit on it. Just like murder has no time limit, the crime is so bad that it demands justice and sin is that crime to a perfect and holy God. If you're a skeptic and a billion others are not, don't you think you may be wrong.
Quote:What's that? It's about faith? Well, shit, he knew before anyone was born whether they'd be a believer or not. What choice at that point did anyone have?
Just because one knows something about you, doesn't mean you do not have a choice. For you it's the unknown no matter who else knows. You're speaking of preordained salvation and when you care to study the Bible you would see that's not what was done. Why can't you guys use your brains and see these things, fear comes to mind first.
Quote: Could they choose something that went against your god's plan?
No, your little god is a no-show, no-call scrub who'd get fired from WalMart for absenteeism (that means calling in sick too often, Rube).
Again why can't you read the Bible and find out what God's plan was and is, I mean really is that such a big deal for those who claim superior minds. God's never been absent from His creation, His omnipresent.
GC
(December 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm)Strider Wrote: The entire idea of the blood sacrifice of the son (the alter ego of God who is able to strangely co-exist as three entities but are actually the same) to atone for the wrongdoings of others is ancient, cruel, and barbaric.
You're right, the sacrifice was cruel and barbaric, especially for a sinless person.
Quote:The notion that we are born into original sin and are in need of forgiveness is equally repugnant.
Sin is more than repugnant to God and we all are born into original sin, you should determine what that original sin is we have been born to commit in time.
Quote:No amount of mental gymnastics can coax my mind into the contortions necessary to believe such dark age, mythologically-inspired fiction as fact.
I agree, mental gymnastics can't coax one to believe in God, it can however help people temporarily believe. Real belief comes from knowing and when people do not search the scriptures for knowledge of God, they will fall away. Without knowing God one has nothing to trust in and they search for other things. The Bible tells us that we can know God and come into a knowledgeable relationship with Him.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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