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OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
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RE: OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
This cop union leader doesn't seem all that different from any of the others we've heard from lately.

In Seattle cops sued the DOJ for the right to continue beating the shit out of people.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/201410...udge.shtml


Baltimore:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Cleveland:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cleveland-pol...t-pathetic

California:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ca-police...brutality/

And so on....

These are the guys who are being elected BY cops to represent their interests. It tells me all I need to know about the mentality of the rank and file.
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#12
RE: OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
(December 21, 2014 at 7:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This cop union leader doesn't seem all that different from any of the others we've heard from lately.

In Seattle cops sued the DOJ for the right to continue beating the shit out of people.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/201410...udge.shtml


Baltimore:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

Cleveland:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/cleveland-pol...t-pathetic

California:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ca-police...brutality/

And so on....

These are the guys who are being elected BY cops to represent their interests. It tells me all I need to know about the mentality of the rank and file.

How is any gang mentality different? That is what groups of like minded people do, that is how evolution works. I am not saying it always produces good things. That is why religions fight each other. That is why political ideologies get pitted against each other, and even why street gangs exist. Cops support cops just like small businesses tend to vote the same party as big businesses. Humans will side with the pattern they think works best for their own interest.

The problem is you have right now 1% not understanding and or not caring how a bad economy allows this division.
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#13
RE: OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
Funny how none of these right wing traitors had a peep to say about the two Tea Party patriots who executed two cops to kick off their anti-government revolution. Or the right-wing anti-government nutcase who murdered two Pennsylvania state troopers a few months ago.

The primary reason rightwingers are bothered by this at all is because the killer wasn't one of theirs conducting patriotic armed revolt against big bad gubmint. If this guy had been inspired by Glenn Beck instead of Eric Garner, you wouldn't be hearing a peep out of the media.
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#14
RE: OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
Well. Not out of FOX.
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RE: OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
(December 21, 2014 at 6:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(December 21, 2014 at 3:27 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I heard this on the news this morning on the way to work. Aside from the completely classless politicization of a crime -- and the fact that he's building his argument on corpses still warm -- this asshole has been pretty quiet about the injustice meted out by the NYPD over the years.

Just a thought: if you don't want citizens so angry that they take up arms against you, maybe you shouldn't trample their rights to the point of killing them without compunction.

You reap what you sow.

No again, it is a climate. Those cops did not deserve to die. The asshole who shot them shot his own girlfriend, he was no Garner or Brown. I do agree that this PD Union leader is a fucking jerk lumping all protesters in with this one cop killer and blaming the Mayor for it.

The lack of oversight of anything when you get to these conditions is money and economics. It is a vicious cycle that breads the fear on all sides.

Of course it's climate, but I think your analysis of the nature and scope of the climate is wrong. Maslow's Hammer at work again.

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RE: OP/ED NYPD Leader the real jerk.
(December 22, 2014 at 2:26 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(December 21, 2014 at 6:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No again, it is a climate. Those cops did not deserve to die. The asshole who shot them shot his own girlfriend, he was no Garner or Brown. I do agree that this PD Union leader is a fucking jerk lumping all protesters in with this one cop killer and blaming the Mayor for it.

The lack of oversight of anything when you get to these conditions is money and economics. It is a vicious cycle that breads the fear on all sides.

Of course it's climate, but I think your analysis of the nature and scope of the climate is wrong. Maslow's Hammer at work again.

Cut the crap, this isnt a dead philosophy. This is a DIRECT result of
an economy driven by greed and extraction.

In evolution, and since we ARE one species in evolution, ecosystems matter. Economies are the way we gain resources and we behave no differently than other species when we are stressed. The only way to reduce stress economically is to maximize the stability of more of the population.

This isn't brain surgery and. Nature is what we live in and resources are what it is all about.

Evolution, explains why humans do what they do. Lack of resources will ALWAYS cause more division no matter what you set up.
You are selling dead crap that does nothing to solve problems.

RESOURCES are what life is all about, nothing more. Our politics and religions and and boarders and economic views are the EXCUSES to group to gain those resources. It benefits the group that creates those labels but the downside to ignoring what I am saying is that it pits humans against other humans based on our artificial constructs.

Maslow's hammer has NOTHING to do with this. Don't project your crappy argument on me. I never said we are not a complex species it is precisely because we are complex that we IGNORE our common existence which allows us to set up in group vs out group dynamics.

It is because you ignore the CORE of reality of what we are really after that humans have a hard time untying the complex social structures that allow us to be divided.

Oh and by "resources" FYI, I am not strictly talking about money or food. Emotional support, family support, and group support are part of group survival which is universal regardless of what group we belong to. It is still about resources. Once you accept that you can work past differences. If you don't accept that you allow the stagnation of more human division instead of reducing it. It isn't about ridding the world of differences but how to manage those differences better to reduce stress and division.

The point you keep missing is that WE have never been a separate species.
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