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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 4:55 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 2:00 pm)Chas Wrote: (December 31, 2014 at 7:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: Believe me I know what you're saying, however find me another source that proves God hasn't existed forever?
Gc
You still don't get it. You are the one making the claims that 1) God exists, and 2) God has always existed.
The burden of proof is upon you; go thou and find the evidence.
I did not bring this up, I was asked who created God, my answer was no one He wasn't created, you should read and retain what was stated before jumping in this conversation.
I gave an answer and then was told God was either created or he doesn't exist, both positive statements, thus they require proof and it's not been given. It's you who doesn't get it, to take a stand opposite of what was stated also requires proof, but you believe all you need to do is say no your wrong and that makes you right and then you call that logic, how I'll never understand.
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 4:56 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Nah, you're wrong GC: god was created.
See? I can make totally unfounded assertions too! 
Your assertion is unfounded, you have no proof to lead you to such a conclusion, but I'm glad you see that you're wrong. Now that we see you're wrong that leaves us with this God wasn't created, He has always been. You dismiss this because you can't rap your mind around this, don't feel alone no one can. Being omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent means God could not have been created, nothing could nor would create something better or more powerful than themselves. God also being perfect in all His good attributes means He couldn't have been created, these things can not be created they have always been, they have no beginning they have always been.
GC
Lol.
I think when you a see a theist retorting with 'nuh uh! You're wrong and I'm right so there!' You know they've gone off the deep end.
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 4:57 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 2:27 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 2:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: So what you believe to be an original thought turns out to be the same whining
My irony detector just exploded.
It must be on the fritz, just as your brain is. 
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 4:58 pm
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(January 1, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 2:00 pm)Chas Wrote: You still don't get it. You are the one making the claims that 1) God exists, and 2) God has always existed.
The burden of proof is upon you; go thou and find the evidence.
I did not bring this up, I was asked who created God, my answer was no one He wasn't created, you should read and retain what was stated before jumping in this conversation.
I gave an answer and then was told God was either created or he doesn't exist, both positive statements, thus they require proof and it's not been given. It's you who doesn't get it, to take a stand opposite of what was stated also requires proof, but you believe all you need to do is say no your wrong and that makes you right and then you call that logic, how I'll never understand.
GC
You keep postulating that a god is real and you pray and believe in him. The only thing you do is dodge the question regarding the fact we wan't proof. Hell i can come up a good way to say how could a god to exist. But i don't. Still ball is on your court throw away.
(January 1, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 2:27 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: My irony detector just exploded.
It must be on the fritz, just as your brain is.
GC
Best not to attack anyone's intelligence there GC.. best not at all.
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 5:03 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 4:56 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Lol.
I think when you a see a theist retorting with 'nuh uh! You're wrong and I'm right so there!' You know they've gone off the deep end.
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Cute, really cute, same ol' same incoherent junk. I gave reasons a far cry better than what you did here.
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 5:04 pm
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 5:09 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your assertion is unfounded, you have no proof to lead you to such a conclusion, but I'm glad you see that you're wrong.
I... I just... Am I actually going to have to explain to you what I'm doing in the same terms I would explain it to a three year old with? 
Okay then: where did you present the proof that led you to your conclusion, so as to make your assertion more well founded than mine? 
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 5:13 pm
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(January 1, 2015 at 5:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 4:56 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Lol.
I think when you a see a theist retorting with 'nuh uh! You're wrong and I'm right so there!' You know they've gone off the deep end.
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Cute, really cute, same ol' same incoherent junk. I gave reasons a far cry better than what you did here.
GC
Sorry darling but let's not forget that the basis of this discussion is your unevidenced delusional beliefs.
I beseech all readers of this thread to re-read GCs previous post to the one quoted where his retort on unfounded assertions was effectively 'nuh uh'.
Good ol' English comprehension not your strong point is it, GC?
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 5:17 pm
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(January 1, 2015 at 4:50 pm)abaris Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: Now that we see you're wrong that leaves us with this God wasn't created, He has always been.
GC
That still leaves us with the very real probability, that god doesn't exist at all. Given the scientific knowledge of the world and the universe surrounding us.
You carry with you the ball and chains of being a literalist. What's more, you're afraid to inform yourself beyond obviously reading apologist literature, which doesn't add to knowledge but only confirms your already existing bias.
My information comes from God, just because you have never experience this relationship exclude that I have. By the way I've heard it all right here on this forum and not one iota of proof has been give why God doesn't exist, not one iota of evidence has been given to change what I believe. I've been here for nearly 5 years and nearly 5000 post and you all still have nothing new to say, no proof, no convincing argument, nada, nothing, your teachers of logic would be very disappointed.
GC
Since you guys are ganging up I going to clock out, I'm not playing your game.
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RE: Bible is the infallible word of God! Proof!
January 1, 2015 at 5:21 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 2:00 pm)Chas Wrote: You still don't get it. You are the one making the claims that 1) God exists, and 2) God has always existed.
The burden of proof is upon you; go thou and find the evidence.
I did not bring this up, I was asked who created God, my answer was no one He wasn't created, you should read and retain what was stated before jumping in this conversation.
I gave an answer and then was told God was either created or he doesn't exist, both positive statements, thus they require proof and it's not been given. It's you who doesn't get it, to take a stand opposite of what was stated also requires proof, but you believe all you need to do is say no your wrong and that makes you right and then you call that logic, how I'll never understand.
GC
No, you still don't get it. I have made no assertion, I simply don't accept your unevidenced claim.
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