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If Only The Romans
RE: If Only The Romans
Quote:Peter, John and James. Their books are from the new testament of the bible.


Pseudoepigraphic horseshit. Only fundamentalist morons believe that there were actually people by that name writing shit down.
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(December 31, 2014 at 12:28 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Who made that Universe, according to your beliefs? Who made all men with their fallible human nature? Who created evil?

Who?

Answer me.

God created the universe and God created the tempter. Since we can choose to do evil or good, we create evil when we sin. If no one would sin, then there would be no evil. It was really up to Adam and Eve in the first place and for us to carry it on.
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"Adam and Eve" are a myth too. You profess drivel, Lek. Time to grow up.
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(December 31, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Peter, John and James. Their books are from the new testament of the bible.


Pseudoepigraphic horseshit. Only fundamentalist morons believe that there were actually people by that name writing shit down.

Only an atheist moron would make a statement like this. Why didn't they write these books? The early church was much closer to the era than some secular revisionists a thousand or two years later. Believe what you want to, but don't try to feed me that stuff.
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(December 31, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Lek Wrote: With all the terrible stuff in the world why should I consider myself lucky to be here? According to the testimony of people here, the world is filled with terrible suffering and misery. I guess, though, when you take God out of the equation, then it's all really okay.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that discussing a state of affairs is approving it. Could you link to that specific post?

It seems to me you're reading with your filters on.

<edited, I see you've answered it>

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Read Jesus Interrupted...or something besides your stupid fucking bible... and perhaps you will be less of an idiot.

You believe anything you are told by some religious shitstain in a funny collar. Time to grow up.
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(December 31, 2014 at 1:11 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(December 31, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Lek Wrote: With all the terrible stuff in the world why should I consider myself lucky to be here? According to the testimony of people here, the world is filled with terrible suffering and misery. I guess, though, when you take God out of the equation, then it's all really okay.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that discussing a state of affairs is approving it. Could you link to that specific post?

It seems to me you're reading with your filters on.

And while you're at it, would you mind answering my questions in post #136?

See post #142.

(December 31, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Read Jesus Interrupted...or something besides your stupid fucking bible... and perhaps you will be less of an idiot.

You believe anything you are told by some religious shitstain in a funny collar. Time to grow up.

I'm afraid that if I grow up I'll become like you Mini! If you choose to believe modern day revisionists over witnesses and those who lived close to his time, go ahead. I don't see where they have any more authority than numerous witnesses of the time.
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Quote:A very large percentage of seminarians are completely blind-sided by the historical-critical method. They come in with the expectation of learning the pious truths of the Bible so that they can pass them along in their sermons, as their own pastors have done for
them. Nothing prepares them for historical criticism. To their surprise they learn, instead of material for sermons, all the results of what historical critics have established on the basis of centuries of research. The Bible is filled with discrepancies, many of them irreconcilable contradictions. Moses did not write the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Old Testament) and Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John did not write the Gospels. There are other books that did not make it into the Bible that at one time or another were considered canonical—other Gospels, for example, allegedly written by Jesus’ followers Peter, Thomas, and Mary. The Exodus probably did not happen as described in the Old Testament. The conquest of the Promised Land is probably based on legend. The Gospels are at odds on numerous points and contain nonhistorical material. It is hard to know whether Moses ever existed and what, exactly, the historical Jesus taught. The historical narratives of the Old Testament are filled with legendary fabrications and the book of Acts in the New Testament contains historically unreliable information about the life and teachings of Paul. Many of the books of the New Testament are pseudonymous—written not by the apostles but by later writers claiming to be apostles. The list goes on.

Jesus Interrupted
Pages 5-6 (it only goes downhill for your holy horseshit from there!)
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(December 31, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm afraid that if I grow up I'll become like you Mini!

A moment of clarity?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Quote:I'm afraid that if I grow up I'll become like you Mini!

Then remain a child, boy. You sound as if you are 8 and a not very precocious 8 at that!
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