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If Only The Romans
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 (December 29, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(December 27, 2014 at 2:22 pm)Lek Wrote: This is what scares me about atheists running a country. It happens every time. They decide to try to wipe out religion and it leads to mass persecutions and executions. I thought you guys were for freedom of expression. This sounds like Stalin all over again. I get what you're saying Mini. Your hate is evident.  (December 29, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Lek Wrote:(December 29, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah....you're one of the fuckers we have our eye on. Watch your ass. Why are you afraid of a atheist leader though.. i mean look at the middle east with its theist leaders and look at the condition their countries are in and they follow biblical law and made their law system around it.
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Code: <iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/255506953&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true"></iframe>(December 29, 2014 at 1:07 pm)dyresand Wrote:(December 29, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah....you're one of the fuckers we have our eye on. Watch your ass. You guys are such wonderful free-thinking people. Hitler wasn't a devout catholic. If he was he wouldn't have murdered all those people, since Christ commanded us to love our neighbor as ourselves. Use your head. Just saying that you're a christian doesn't make you a christian. Hitler used any means at his disposable to bring about his plan. Was Hitler better or worse than Stalin, the atheist? (December 29, 2014 at 2:44 pm)Lek Wrote:(December 29, 2014 at 1:07 pm)dyresand Wrote: Hey Lek guess what were keeping our eyes on you. You know when a person who is really into god and their religion gets into power and has motivations of wiping out a group of people who follow a different religion and has the same god. Oh wait that person is Hitler he wanted to kill all the jews and he was a devout catholic. What would a atheist leader do he wouldn't kill anyone more peaceful options would be sought after and war would be the last thing that would be resorted to.. so tell me what are you afraid of again lek? Say what you wan't but yes that guy was a devout catholic. He did those things because he A felt like he was doing gods work and B he felt like the jews had to much power and was the reasoning why Germany's economy collapsed after WW1. So when you say he isn't a devout catholic you should really study ww1 and ww2 history. Hitler he was a catholic thinking he was doing gods work you can say he wasn't a true catholic but the guy was a true catholic.
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Code: <iframe width="100%" height="450" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/255506953&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true"></iframe> (December 29, 2014 at 2:50 pm)Lek Wrote:Yeah, somewhere...(December 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm)dyresand Wrote: Why are you afraid of a atheist leader though.. i mean ![[Image: heads-of-state-and-government2.jpg?w=620]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=atheistpapers.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F12%2Fheads-of-state-and-government2.jpg%3Fw%3D620) We all know how appealing theocracy looks.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 29, 2014 at 2:55 pm
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(December 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm)dyresand Wrote:(December 29, 2014 at 2:44 pm)Lek Wrote: You guys are such wonderful free-thinking people. Hitler wasn't a devout catholic. If he was he wouldn't have murdered all those people, since Christ commanded us to love our neighbor as ourselves. Use your head. Just saying that you're a christian doesn't make you a christian. Hitler used any means at his disposable to bring about his plan. Was Hitler better or worse than Stalin, the atheist? Obviously, you've never read the bible to find out what Christ requires of his followers. You've also never looked into catholic doctrine. If you did, you would know that Hitler wasn't a devout catholic. Show me a statement from the bible or the catholic catechism that would allow a catholic to murder countless Jewish people - or any kind of people. (December 29, 2014 at 2:54 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(December 29, 2014 at 2:50 pm)Lek Wrote: Because of leaders like Kim Jon Un, Mao Tse Tung, Joseph Stalin, among others. These guys have a very bad record on humans rights. I mean they're murders and persecutors. Maybe there's some good good atheist leaders out there somewhere. Very good. I accept your list and I could give you a list of great christian leaders five times that size. So maybe we can agree not to make sweeping generalizations about how a christian or atheist would govern a nation.  (December 29, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Lek Wrote: Obviously, you've never read the bible to find out what Christ requires of his followers. You've also never looked into catholic doctrine. If you did, you would know that Hitler wasn't a devout catholic. Show me a statement from the bible or the catholic catechism that would allow a catholic to murder countless Jewish people - or any kind of people.But there are the examples of men like Moses and David, who massacred entire armies and even entire cities, occasionally sparing the livestock and virgin girls for, uh, "peaceful" purposes. And there's always the example of Yahweh, who once answered "genocide" when asked what his favorite hobby was. Why do Christians pretend that those examples don't exist?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould (December 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Tonus Wrote: [But there are the examples of men like Moses and David, who massacred entire armies and even entire cities, occasionally sparing the livestock and virgin girls for, uh, "peaceful" purposes. And there's always the example of Yahweh, who once answered "genocide" when asked what his favorite hobby was. Why do Christians pretend that those examples don't exist? I don't pretend all those examples don't exist, except that God never said that his favorite hobby was genocide. In the old testament we were living under God's wrath. Jesus fulfilled the old covenant and now we are under the covenant of grace. We are to live according to Jesus. I could make the same kind or remarks about past and present atheist leaders. That's why we can't generalize about how atheists or christians would run a nation. |
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