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Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
My bigotry? No, I don't feel like responding to that big, tedious response you made to me back there. It's just a waste of time, like this thread.
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:45 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: My bigotry? No, I don't feel like responding to that big, tedious response you made to me back there. It's just a waste of time, like this thread.

with any luck, you will grow up someday, realize how stupid you were when you were a kid, and never stop slapping yourself.
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
Something I've failed to see in this thread is anyone giving an interesting argument. Instead all I see is a bunch of posturing bullshit, like oh look at how posh I can sound when I write. It's really just sad, that you'd rather do that than try to actually make an attempt at arguing. So yeah, I can play the little hyperbole game, go back and forth with haha look how clever I am comments. I really hate doing that though and I hate talking to you, because you're nothing more than a bunch of smug, stuck up assholes. Maybe when we talk again we can have a real discussion, hopefully.
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: Something I've failed to see in this thread is anyone giving an interesting argument. Instead all I see is a bunch of posturing bullshit, like oh look at how posh I can sound when I write. It's really just sad, that you'd rather do that than try to actually make an attempt at arguing. So yeah, I can play the little hyperbole game, go back and forth with haha look how clever I am comments. I really hate doing that though and I hate talking to you, because you're nothing more than a bunch of smug, stuck up assholes. Maybe when we talk again we can have a real discussion, hopefully.

So, you can't respond logically and well to arguments counter to your claim so instead you stamp your foot like a petulant child, and refuse to play with everyone else while claiming they're trying to sound intelligent?

Gotcha.

Run along, child, the adults need to talk.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(November 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: Something I've failed to see in this thread is anyone giving an interesting argument. Instead all I see is a bunch of posturing bullshit, like oh look at how posh I can sound when I write. It's really just sad, that you'd rather do that than try to actually make an attempt at arguing. So yeah, I can play the little hyperbole game, go back and forth with haha look how clever I am comments. I really hate doing that though and I hate talking to you, because you're nothing more than a bunch of smug, stuck up assholes. Maybe when we talk again we can have a real discussion, hopefully.

So, you can't respond logically and well to arguments counter to your claim so instead you stamp your foot like a petulant child, and refuse to play with everyone else while claiming they're trying to sound intelligent?

Gotcha.

Run along, child, the adults need to talk.
I tried. What else can you do. Who the fuck are you. You come in after 20 pages. You don't know shit.
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:55 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote:
(November 18, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Beccs Wrote: So, you can't respond logically and well to arguments counter to your claim so instead you stamp your foot like a petulant child, and refuse to play with everyone else while claiming they're trying to sound intelligent?

Gotcha.

Run along, child, the adults need to talk.
I tried. What else can you do. Who the fuck are you. You come in after 20 pages. You don't know shit.

Ok, now the thread's gone back to entertaining.
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:45 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: My bigotry? No, I don't feel like responding to that big, tedious response you made to me back there. It's just a waste of time, like this thread.

Well I won't bother putting so much time into responding in future.

Fucking hell you're like Jekyll and Hyde, one minute you're saying you have no bad feelings to anyone here and you want me to respond, next minute you're calling my response so tedious to not be worth responding to.

Okay if you want the TL;DR version:

I don't hate you as a person (but then again I don't really "hate" anyone as a person) but I do hate your behavior on this thread. I think that when you said "thank you all" that was probably false modesty, but hey, maybe that's just me. If you really mean you hold no negative feelings to anyone then regardless of whether that is true or not I'd prefer that your behavior reflected that absence of negative feelings in future instead of reflecting hatefulness.

I think you have strawmanned and misreprestented feminism and don't like it when people disagree with you and call you out on that, I think it's ridiculous to expect people to not respond in kind when you insult them so much and hypocritical for you to be so shocked at them for doing so and yet continue to do so yourself.

I think many of the comments you have made have been very bigoted, hateful, insulting and offensive.

I think many of your "nicer" posts are condescending and disingenuous, and as for your disingenuousness I think you know very well that I was never "defending" you because I made it very clear in my posts that I was against what was being said to you, I didn't give two shits that it was you who it happened to be addressed to. No one here is your lawyer, no one here has to be on your side.
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:55 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote:
(November 18, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Beccs Wrote: So, you can't respond logically and well to arguments counter to your claim so instead you stamp your foot like a petulant child, and refuse to play with everyone else while claiming they're trying to sound intelligent?

Gotcha.

Run along, child, the adults need to talk.
I tried. What else can you do. Who the fuck are you. You come in after 20 pages. You don't know shit.

I know plenty.

I can read back those 20 pages.

Who the fuck am I?  I'm one of the ones who can ban your petulant little arse if you step out of line.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: Instead all I see is a bunch of posturing bullshit, like oh look at how posh I can sound when I write. It's really just sad, that you'd rather do that than try to actually make an attempt at arguing. 

So now you're hating on posh people? More bigotry!

What the fuck is wrong with poshness?

Smugness sure, but poshness? (although still not all "smug people" are bad people, but at least "smugness" has more of an arrogant quality rather than just being a social class thing).

Besides, false dichotomy, one is able to write "poshly" whilst also providing sound and valid argumentation.
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(November 18, 2015 at 8:00 pm)Evie Wrote:
(November 18, 2015 at 7:45 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: My bigotry? No, I don't feel like responding to that big, tedious response you made to me back there. It's just a waste of time, like this thread.

Well I won't bother putting so much time into responding in future.

Fucking hell you're like Jekyll and Hyde, one minute you're saying you have no bad feelings to anyone here and you want me to respond, next minute you're calling my response so tedious to not be worth responding to.

Okay if you want the TL;DR version:

I don't hate you as a person (but then again I don't really "hate" anyone as a person) but I do hate your behavior on this thread. I think that when you said "thank you all" that was probably false modesty, but hey, maybe that's just me. If you really mean you hold no negative feelings to anyone then regardless of whether that is true or not I'd prefer that your behavior reflecting that absence of negative feelings in future instead of reflecting hatefulness.

I think you have strawmanned and misreprestented feminism and don't like it when people disagree with you and call you out on that, I think it's ridiculous to expect people to not respond in kind when you insult them so much and hypocritical for you to be so shocked at them for doing so and yet continue to do so yourself.

I think many of your "nicer" posts are condescending and disingenuous, and as for your disingenuousness I think you know very well that I was never "defending" you because I made it very clear in my posts that I was against what was being said to you, I didn't give two shits that it was you who it happened to be addressed to. No one here is your lawyer, no one here has to be on your side.
Yeah I had nothing against all of you back there, but then the clown women turn around and decide they need to work out a couple more laughs. You wanna talk about annoying behavior? Look at the stuck up pricks in this thread; it takes energy to not just call them out straight up, for the incessant shit they spew. Yes, I have been nice, I have been not nice. It's not Jekall and Hyde, it's just an example of how people in text have absolutely - zero fucking - CLUE, about someone actually sounds in their own voice. Maybe it's because I'm a lot more subtle in my voice and I can't naturally capture it in text. 

You want to know the biggest reason I didn't respond to that comment you made to me? I just read a few lines of it and I feel tired. There is absolutely nothing interesting about someone just picking apart what I was trying to say, then presenting it to me again in a way that makes what I'm saying seem disingenuous. You want to talk about annoying shit? If people like that - let me spare the words I would like to use - person back there actually had something interesting to offer - I don't even fucking know anymore - they're just fucking obnoxious. 

I have been following modern day feminists for a while and let me tell you, I think the things I have seen from feminism is fucking disgusting. I see no discrepancy between men and women in our society. Maybe in another society. What I do see is a bunch of spoiled brats acting like the world is so fucking hard for them. I have some news for you, the world is hard for everyone, not just women. So to see the smug attitude of feminists in this thread, acting like they have the most righteous indignation in the world to an issue, which they have repackaged as their own, is just downright fucking insulting.



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