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Lek · January 9, 2015 at 1:45 pm

(January 7, 2015 at 6:20 am)robvalue Wrote: Couldn't agree more. One hand helping does more than a million hands clasped in prayer. The world is shit, and you can either accept that and do what you can to help, or hide behind pathetic delusions that it'll all somehow be OK if you just believe the bullshit hard enough.

I agree. We should be helping all we can. That's what christians are supposed to do, so let's all help instead of just sitting around talking about it. Of course, while we are helping we should also be praying.

FatAndFaithless · January 9, 2015 at 1:46 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 1:45 pm)Lek Wrote:
(January 7, 2015 at 6:20 am)robvalue Wrote: Couldn't agree more. One hand helping does more than a million hands clasped in prayer. The world is shit, and you can either accept that and do what you can to help, or hide behind pathetic delusions that it'll all somehow be OK if you just believe the bullshit hard enough.

I agree. We should be helping all we can. That's what christians are supposed to do, so let's all help instead of just sitting around talking about it. Of course, while we are helping we should also be praying.

If one could only do one or the other, which is more important, praying or helping in the here and now?

**Ravenshire** · January 9, 2015 at 1:53 pm

(January 7, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Strider Wrote: Something good happens? He was saved by the grace of God! God opens doors and answers prayers!

Something shitty happens? The Lord works in mysterious ways. It was his will.

And, when someone's actions can in no way shape or form be credited to gawd's grace or his mysterious ways, then "The Devil made him do it."

I've come to believe that religion is a disease. A tough one to cure but an easy one to inoculate against. Sooooo glad I've inoculated my kids!

Chad32 · (This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 2:05 pm by Chad32.)

(January 9, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Strider Wrote: I have a short announcement. I am actually a god. I know, I know; it seems so obvious now in hindsight. Anyway, each convert shall receive 93 battle-tested escorts in my heaven. Listen, guys. I've seen Allah's bunch, and they are virgins for a reason.

Signup sheets are next to the water cooler.

I'm going to have to ask Alice if She minds me bowing to lesser gods.

JuliaL · January 9, 2015 at 2:14 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 10:29 am)Spooky Wrote: I still don't get most religions' obsession with virgins. Not male, but specifically female ones.

Why is the virgin birth and its so called divine cause so important?
(Not trying to hijack...no pun intended)

Virgin = valuable
Simple hijacking of the human male reproductive strategy.
1) virgins will have high reproductive worth
2) offspring will be of unquestionable paternity
3) some lesser likelihood of STD
Therefore they are highly in demand, particularly by frustrated young adult males who have been denied sexual outlet by their overbearing cultures.

Even females accept that high reproductive worth females are valued above males. Women don't fight the dictum, "Women and children first." very hard when push comes to shove.

Note that nobody ever thinks that the "72 virgins" means the females are virgins and 72 years old. You can't bribe people with dross.

**Spooky** · January 9, 2015 at 2:15 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Strider Wrote: I have a short announcement. I am actually a god. I know, I know; it seems so obvious now in hindsight. Anyway, each convert shall receive 93 battle-tested escorts in my heaven. Listen, guys. I've seen Allah's bunch, and they are virgins for a reason.

Signup sheets are next to the water cooler.

Do I have to go to a bunch of meetings?

Lek · January 9, 2015 at 2:24 pm

(January 9, 2015 at 10:29 am)Spooky Wrote: Why is the virgin birth and its so called divine cause so important?
(Not trying to hijack...no pun intended)

To show that God was the father of Jesus. Jesus was God as well as man.

Chad32 · January 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm

And yet he spent his life acting like he was a different person.

h4ym4n · (This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 2:46 pm by h4ym4n.)

(January 9, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Lek Wrote: To show that God was the father of Jesus. Jesus was God as well as man.

Hey Lek,
Did jesus shatter his mothers hymen at birth?

Surly the ghost version of jesus/god didn't have a penis to penetrate and break the virgin mothers hymen.

What do you think?

So jesus impregnated his mother and took her hymen/virginity at birth?

You guys have some sick beliefs.

Lek · (This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 2:53 pm by Lek.)

(January 9, 2015 at 2:44 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Hey Lek,
Did jesus shatter his mothers hymen at birth?

Surly the ghost version of jesus/god didn't have a penis to penetrate and break the virgin mothers hymen.

What do you think?

So jesus impregnated his mother and took her hymen/virginity at birth?

You guys have some sick beliefs.[/

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Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit and, since he is spirit, he didn't have a penis to use to penetrate her.

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