Why is religion so repugnant to some people

[Chad32]

Cake is love. Cake is life. Cake is the desert you have after you're done with your spaghetti. For the FSM did send his son, Cake, to Earth to help remind us to finish all of our meals.

[vorlon13]

Another thing about the repugnance:

all the dumb fucks that are not a member of the ONE TRUE FAITH.

Jesus fucking Christ, if you're going to be religilous, at the very least don't pick a religion that is OBVIOUSLY false !!!

[ThomM]

Actually - lots of people- probably everyone - believe in things without evidence - and I am not talking about just religious nonsense.

We believe what we were taught to believe by people who we trusted and people those people told us to trust. And until proven otherwise - we tended to continue to believe.

Kids believe in Santa Claus because their parents told them to believe. Since they "trusted" their parents - they had no reason to doubt them and what they said - whether or not it was actually true.

And "Pride" prevents people from admitting they are wrong -even in the occasion of complete proof to the contrary. There are people who still believe in Adam and Eve - even when we can prove there were people on earth long before that supposed time. We KNOW that the earth is not a circle (A two dimensional flat object) - yet there are those who claim that this prove the bible is correct?????

Education is what will eventually end that - along with the lack of funding of churches in general. Originally - education was largely religious - but Public education removed religion and its fairy tales from the masses - and signaled the beginning of the end to religion - and religion is dying out in many western countries finally.

[abaris]

I go with what of my favorite writers, Karlheinz Deschner, said about religion. There's more love to be found in my dog's nose stubbing me than there is in any god of scripture.

[fr0d0]

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Haha but I didn't die so I like..broke a marriage vow..and that's like...a promise to god..that's important to some people.

To me it was always more of a personal promise to my wife. Luckily I didn't break it. Unluckily she broke me.

[Violet]

No, faith is never good and not even science does that. Faith is when you don't take into account things change. Knowledge is when you test to insure you are making the best observations.

Help me out here, Rabbit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JYfbu8BiA

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Anyway... for science to have any hold over anyone, they must first trust in their eyes, their ears, themselves... to believe in anything is an act of faith. Science, after believing that we even CAN know things (which is, like many religions, often blindly assumed)...

Science is further that apparent patterns are indicative of anything whatsoever, and that we can use them to learn about our universe. However blindly... to believe in anything is an act of faith.

I put it this way. Yes the future is not written or a given. But our observations can give us reasonable expectations. That is as close to the word "faith" as I get without using the word "faith".

Can't they just, though? I don't dislike science: many people really are trying to glimpse the glimmer of the truth flashing across a mirror... I have faith in the method as it applies to this world, that indeed this Dream has meaning...

But sometimes, you get someone like Einstein... so utterly convinced of something that they will rip into alternative progress. Being open

"Faith" is a meaningless word used to make excuses to be complacent.

It's a word with no more meaning than any other. Whether it 'matters' to you, or anyone, is irrelevant to its veracity as a word.

I have no "faith" for example that my vehicle will start in the morning when I use it. But, based on it's current condition and that it is full of gas, I have a reasonable expectation knowing it's current condition, odds are high that it will start. If it does not start, then I have to adjust to the change in the observation. "Faith" would be ignoring what is in front of me.

On the contrary... you do have faith that it's full of gas, and that its battery is good... you're willing to budge if you're proven wrong, but you won't be waiting on bated breath for it to happen, which is why you're running 15 minutes for your meeting when your car randomly breaks down.

Faith is not to ignore the possibilities... it is to accept any measure of certainty, any grasp upon 'the truth', any belief that a machine man can influence and/or control any part of his destiny. Not all faiths are made equal; some faith moves mountains... some faith can't budge molehills. Some are held past the dying breath, and others are a momentary worry.

It's possible to live without faith, mind... even to do... but one would have to live only as a machine can live... thoughtless... hopeless... following the motions of life whilst believing in nothing, least of all, themselves.

Our very 'separation' from Dream as distinct individual(s?) is an act of arrogantly crass faith.

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To me it was always more of a personal promise to my wife. Luckily I didn't break it. Unluckily she broke me.

* Violet gives Fr0d0 a hug.

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Actually - lots of people- probably everyone - believe in things without evidence - and I am not talking about just religious nonsense.

Of course... and the less you think, the easier it is to do so. The 'smart' people generally hold onto their faith with reason, and the 'dumb' people generally hold onto their faith with passion.

And "Pride" prevents people from admitting they are wrong -even in the occasion of complete proof to the contrary. There are people who still believe in Adam and Eve - even when we can prove there were people on earth long before that supposed time. We KNOW that the earth is not a circle (A two dimensional flat object) - yet there are those who claim that this prove the bible is correct?????

Pride is the 'deadliest' of the 'sins'. Arrogance lends itself to certainty, and certainty is the enemy. But pride is not the only actor by which is man played... desperation can leave a man like a cornered wolf... enemies everywhere... they'll since their teeth into their only chance, and hold it long firmly long after the danger has passed.

Education is what will eventually end that - along with the lack of funding of churches in general. Originally - education was largely religious - but Public education removed religion and its fairy tales from the masses - and signaled the beginning of the end to religion - and religion is dying out in many western countries finally.

Or... it will persist through marketing, and adapt, as it has done for thousands of years

Religion won't go out easily... people's livelihoods are on the line... and churches themselves will never die, however secular they might become.

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Cake is love. Cake is life. Cake is the desert you have after you're done with your spaghetti. For the FSM did send his son, Cake, to Earth to help remind us to finish all of our meals.

As an anorexic girl trying to climb back to a healthy body weight... I can't but worship Cake. May his carbs be praised.

[IATIA]

I have faith the sun will come up tomorrow. I do not know for a fact that it will, but after seeing the sun come up over 22,000 times, I think my faith is warranted. So yes, everyone demonstrates some faith.

[dyresand]

I have faith the sun will come up tomorrow. I do not know for a fact that it will, but after seeing the sun come up over 22,000 times, I think my faith is warranted. So yes, everyone demonstrates some faith.

[Losty]

Haha but I didn't die so I like..broke a marriage vow..and that's like...a promise to god..that's important to some people.

To me it was always more of a personal promise to my wife. Luckily I didn't break it. Unluckily she broke me.

I'm sorry to hear that frodie.

[Davka]

Stuff religion does:

- Start wars. Religion not only created 9/11, it was Bush's religion that convinced him to invade Iraq - or so he said.
- Stop progress. We desperately need a single global currency, and a single global legal authority. But Teh Babble sez those things are from teh Debbil, run screaming!
- Make Republicans. I was a hardcore left-wing anarchist, then I done got saved. hally-meh-looyah! And Teh Church done convinced me that the GOP was Gawd's party, praise Jeebus! My faith convinced me to vote for G.W. Bush. Twice.
- Waste talent. I am a fucking kickass musician. But I wasted my best years in church worship groups, masturbating so the Pastor could have a cush salary.
- Kill children. By refusing doctors because Gawd. By bombing heathen villages because Gawd.
- Justify Racism.

I could go on, but what's the point? Our brains are scary things, and religion exploits that fact for fun and profit.