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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 4:58 am
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Quote:I have seen recent studies where they tried to quantifiably test prayer and it failed. I wasn’t aware the definition used here required that my evidence be either conclusive or objective. Actually, healing children of leukemia as well as other purported terminal illnesses happens quite a lot (the before, pray, after method) as well as with other cancer patients. It is measurable and cumulatively it is indicative evidence for me that prayer works. I requested something of the Abrahamic God, it happened. I requested it from some other diety or not at all, it doesn’t happen. I can’t see something this cut and dry as confirmation bias. Please enlighten me.
The prayer experiment i was referring to was the harvard prayer experiment, here is a link to its findings.
http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Har...experiment
however in a nutshell they took 3 groups of heart surgery patients who were in recovery, had 3 test groups, people who knew they were being prayed for, people who didn't know they were being prayed for and people who no-one prayed for, There was no difference in the recovery rates of those who didn't know they were being prayed for, and those who no one prayed for, and in those who knew they were being prayed for, suffered more complications( probably due to the fact that they were lax on taking care of themselves thinking God would be on there side)
Prayer does not cure kids with leukaemia, medicine does, Dr's do, science does. Not God. However if you have a study from a reliable source with actual data then I shall read it, My opinion is open to change after all.
Quote:Firstly, to thebigfudge you said that it happens 'quite often' that people pray for a sick kid to get better and they do
I didn't say that lol
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 5:32 am
Nah, that's my bad from the way I worded it. I was addressing tackattack, as in he said to you that sick kids get better.
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 8:28 am
(September 27, 2011 at 9:24 am)Rhythm Wrote: If you snipped everything that wasn't "evidence god exists" it would be nonexistent.
You could fit all the evidence for gods into a matchbox and still have room in there for the matches.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 8:54 am
Light that matchbox and you'd have done a public service.
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 9:22 am
And the Universe would be practically indistinguishable from how it was before the matchbox went up, except there'd be one less matchbox.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 11:04 am
Evidence is still thin on the ground hmn? I'm truly astonished. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Well, just last week, I had a raging headache. After taking two Tylenol, I took our jar of mayo out of the fridge and asked that it rid me of the horrible pain I was in. And you know what? Within an hour the pain was completely gone!
Then, a few days later, I banged my knee on the coffee table. My knee throbbed with pain, but I remembered what happened when I asked the jar of mayo to cure my headache! So I went to the fridge, took out the mayonnaise jar and held it firmly. I then asked that it stop the pain in my knee. Well.... after a few minutes the throbbing subsided and then it disppeared completely! The mayonnaise jar obviously worked its magic again! Although I did get an ugly bruise on my knee.
If this isn't evidence of the power of my mayonnaise jar, I don't know what is!
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God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 3:54 pm
You know I'm a similar situation with a couple of "dolls" that quite obviously have the power to predict the future. I can back that up with links on this very forum!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 4:08 pm
(September 28, 2011 at 3:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know I'm a similar situation with a couple of "dolls" that quite obviously have the power to predict the future. I can back that up with links on this very forum!
I'd be taking those dolls to the roulette table in Vegas!
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RE: Evidence God Exists
September 28, 2011 at 4:27 pm
They appear to be Troll Gods. Not sure that I can extend their powers to the roulette table.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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