Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop

[Spooky]

According to the New Testament, Jesus knew that he was going to die if he remained in Jerusalem. He even knew that Judas would betray him. Further, he drew attention to himself by sending his 2 apostles to take/steal a white donkey for him to ride into the city. Jewish people would have known that by entering the city in such a fashion, Jesus was claiming to be the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy in Zechariah. Because he was apparently not a stupid man, Jesus would have been aware that his actions would antagonize the authorities



Why are his actions not considered a form of suicide?

For the same reason a secret service agent takes a bullet for the president, a soldier jumps on a gernade to save his squad mates, and a mother runs out into traffic to push her kid out of the path of an on coming bus he did not see.

Duty, honor, and love.

To give a life to save another is not suicide. To give a life to potentially save a whole species is what Christ did on the cross.

Perhaps the most cognizant argument I've seen you make. Wrong of course, but well done.

[vorlon13]

Was god 'diminished' while Jesus was out and about ?

Whatever 'snort' god had prior to inseminating Mary, some of it was parceled out to the kid. God would have to have less in the interim, right ?


So Satan was relatively stronger ???

[YGninja]

According to the New Testament, Jesus knew that he was going to die if he remained in Jerusalem. He even knew that Judas would betray him. Further, he drew attention to himself by sending his 2 apostles to take/steal a white donkey for him to ride into the city. Jewish people would have known that by entering the city in such a fashion, Jesus was claiming to be the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy in Zechariah. Because he was apparently not a stupid man, Jesus would have been aware that his actions would antagonize the authorities

All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass

Why are his actions not considered a form of suicide?

Yes, Jesus knew. It was not suicide though, as he did not kill himself. He merely chose not to avoid what he knew would happen.

[h4ym4n]

Yes, Jesus knew. It was not suicide though, as he did not kill himself. He merely chose not to avoid what he knew would happen.

Not familiar with the concept of suicide by cop, are ya?

[pgrimes15]

And God already knew way beforehand everything that Jesus figured out. There was not one particle of surprise in god at anything of Jesus experience.

Kinda wonder why he bothered, and instead just issued an appropriate vision or revelation to a scribe somewhere.

Maybe that is too close to just making it all up ??

Of course he knew everything - Jesus is omni-max in the trinity same as God. Hang on !! He is God !! But only a bit of the "god-head" so he can speak to himself and command that the Balrog shall not pass and that Lucifer must not obtain the one ring to rule them all or else it will always be winter and never Christmas.

Picture it in B.C.E. 1 billion.

"Dad !! It's boring here there's nothing to see or do !"

"Don't worry. In about a billion years you're going to have a little 30 year break !"

"Really ! Where ! "

"Haven't made it yet "

"OK"

B.C.E. half billion

"Are we there yet ? "

"No"

B.C.E. 200 thousand years

"There yet ?"

"No"

B.C.E. 10 million years

" We there yet ?"

" Yes nearly there - just round the corner "

B.C.E. 1 million

"We nearly there ?"

"Shut up !! You're doing my head in ! I'll try and find something for you to do "

B.C.E. 6000 (ish)

"There. Made a universe for you to watch."

"Wow. Cool !"

"Now will you shut up for a bit I'm concentrating. Trying to make the US healthcare system .. just .. can't ... seem to .. get .. it .. right .. aarrgghh!! .. that will have to do."

[dyresand]

According to the New Testament, Jesus knew that he was going to die if he remained in Jerusalem. He even knew that Judas would betray him. Further, he drew attention to himself by sending his 2 apostles to take/steal a white donkey for him to ride into the city. Jewish people would have known that by entering the city in such a fashion, Jesus was claiming to be the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy in Zechariah. Because he was apparently not a stupid man, Jesus would have been aware that his actions would antagonize the authorities



Why are his actions not considered a form of suicide?

Yes, Jesus knew. It was not suicide though, as he did not kill himself. He merely chose not to avoid what he knew would happen.

It is suicide its like you know and get information a head of time about a serial killer and that person wants to kill you and regardless of it you walk to that location that was presented to you to be your area of death over looking everything you go anyways and end up dead. If i had the choice i would save jesus and be like its not worth it just learn to forgive for the love of your self learn to forgive its needless to die and your committing a sin even though you lived a mostly sinless life and that one time you showed rage.

[YGninja]

Yes, Jesus knew. It was not suicide though, as he did not kill himself. He merely chose not to avoid what he knew would happen.

It is suicide its like you know and get information a head of time about a serial killer and that person wants to kill you and regardless of it you walk to that location that was presented to you to be your area of death over looking everything you go anyways and end up dead. If i had the choice i would save jesus and be like its not worth it just learn to forgive for the love of your self learn to forgive its needless to die and your committing a sin even though you lived a mostly sinless life and that one time you showed rage.

Its not suicide, as suicide is killing yourself. Jesus didn't kill himself, he just refused to avoid his own murder. You cannot be murdered and yet have committed suicide, so if you imagine Jesus committed suicide, what do you call the people who hung him on the cross, hammered nails into him and stabbed him to death? His assistants? lol

[Tonus]

what do you call the people who hung him on the cross, hammered nails into him and stabbed him to death?

Enablers?

[h4ym4n]

[dyresand]

It is suicide its like you know and get information a head of time about a serial killer and that person wants to kill you and regardless of it you walk to that location that was presented to you to be your area of death over looking everything you go anyways and end up dead. If i had the choice i would save jesus and be like its not worth it just learn to forgive for the love of your self learn to forgive its needless to die and your committing a sin even though you lived a mostly sinless life and that one time you showed rage.

Its not suicide, as suicide is killing yourself. Jesus didn't kill himself, he just refused to avoid his own murder. You cannot be murdered and yet have committed suicide, so if you imagine Jesus committed suicide, what do you call the people who hung him on the cross, hammered nails into him and stabbed him to death? His assistants? lol

It still is he knew he was going to die he walked into it. So like ill say again someone one wants to kill you and you have all this information and regardless of asking for help and or getting protection you still don't and end up dead because you needlessly ignored the obvious threats its the same as suicide.