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RE: Paris Museum caves to Islamic threats over art.
January 30, 2015 at 11:23 am
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(January 29, 2015 at 6:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (January 29, 2015 at 6:17 pm)Blackout Wrote: Brian following my comment on the other thread about race and religions, this is a perfect example of when we should criticize Muslims regardless of race 
Not even black is a race. A dark skin Jamaican is not going to have anything in common with a dark skin Ugandan or a dark skin San Franciscan vs a dark skin Argentinian.
Except relatively recent African ancestry. Regional variation within a species is what race
is.
(January 30, 2015 at 6:24 am)Lucanus Wrote: But many of them do. Think about the muslim policeman who died in the wake of the attack on Charlie Hebdo. Saying "let's kick them all out" is not going to help, and neither are those cartoons.
Yeah, we keep griping about Islam when we should be focused on Islamism: the idea that people who aren't Muslims should have Muslim rules applied to them. There are millions of Muslims who are fine with other people doing their own thing, but we keep catching them in the wide net we throw out whenever people who are Muslims misbehave.
The response to the threat against the art should have been to track down those who made the threat and arrest them: free speech doesn't include freedom to threaten violence.
And though it may be dangerous, the policy towards Islamism should be to never give in. The cartoons are stupid, but a threat of violence should guarantee their display. Threatening violence should always be counterproductive. And if they carry it out, at least the police can be ready for it.
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RE: Paris Museum caves to Islamic threats over art.
January 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm
Sure, but it's the kind of cartoon used by a certain kind of people with a certain kind of ideas towards anything different from what they're used to - and that's what makes me dislike it.
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RE: Paris Museum caves to Islamic threats over art.
January 30, 2015 at 2:24 pm
The museum decision is a very bad precedent. Muslims don't like ANY paintings of ANY people, as it believed to be a graven image.
The museum rolls over on this, the complainers will be emboldened to ask for more concessions, and pretty soon there won't be an art museum there at all.
The 'proper' response would be MORE 'offensive' art. If that is the response to bickerish complainers they will go off on some other protest.
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RE: Paris Museum caves to Islamic threats over art.
January 30, 2015 at 2:52 pm
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I agree. I understand being scared, really I do. But sadly, overall this is the worst decision.
More pisstake. More of it. Mohammed is locked in my basement and I kick him in the nuts every 20 minutes. And he likes it.
The pisstake will continue until islam grows up.
