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(February 13, 2015 at 6:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Why do you want to be our enemy, just because we disagree on certain issues? Do you derive some special frisson out of it or something?
I don't. I do not see atheist as the enemy, yes a few but not most. I see atheism a the enemies war on Christians. If you're wondering who the enemy is listen to the Stones they know all to well. Honestly as irritating as you are, from what I know about you I would have no problem being a friend to you, but then they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Last time i checked and opened a history book you guys are the enemy's you were the ones stoning and killing us because we didn't believe in your god and called us blasphemers and gladly started the whole dark ages trying to snuff out scientific advancements. So.....yeah you are the enemy as long as you stand under the banner of ignorance.
(February 13, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: Actually, I wouldn't expect people to lambast someone for believing in something different to them without any provocation. Neither would I expect to hear people being called evil for simply believing something different to them either.
First of all you have no idea that she didn't allude to it with emphasis that wasn't actually there and further more truth is truth, provocation not necessary to make a statement, get real. It's actually the disbelief in and of itself is evil and come from such, I'm doubting that the priest meant the person evil, I do not think she's evil. I do consider some non-believers to be evil.
Quote:Are you guys really so insecure that you're actually affected by people calling your beliefs bullshit? Or indeed for simply not believing in the same thing as you do?
Gutted for you I guess.
Ha, that's funny, gutted. You sure est yourself a very low standard of gutting to reach. The thing here is that bull.... is the mildest form of expression from atheist toward Christians. Christianity is important enough to attack, it's the most attacked thing in the U.S. these days. Yet we stand strong and go about God's work. If you're thinking about responding about persecution,don't, we here in the U.S. are not persecuted only harassed.
GC
Christianity is irrelevant until people shove it in the face of those that don't want to hear about it. Keep it to yourself and you'll find less people attacking it.
But you can't. You're instructed to spread it like a disease, and so here we are.
'Harassed'. You always play the same tune of persecution, so dressing it up as not persecution can stop right here. You're not going to get away with that nonsense. You think you're persecuted and act as such, despite the fact that people saying your belief is BS is not really persecution or indeed harassment.
So again, gutted for you I guess. Enjoy feeling harassed from when you wake up in the morning to when you go to sleep at night. Perhaps spare a thought for those who really are persecuted or 'harassed' around the world.
(February 13, 2015 at 6:53 pm)dyresand Wrote: Last time i checked and opened a history book you guys are the enemy's you were the ones stoning and killing us because we didn't believe in your god and called us blasphemers and gladly started the whole dark ages trying to snuff out scientific advancements. So.....yeah you are the enemy as long as you stand under the banner of ignorance.
Reread your history book and see how many christians were snuffed out by Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. Or go live in North Korea with Kim Il Jong. He's another great atheist.
February 13, 2015 at 8:23 pm (This post was last modified: February 13, 2015 at 8:24 pm by Norman Humann.)
(February 13, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Lek Wrote:
(February 13, 2015 at 6:53 pm)dyresand Wrote: Last time i checked and opened a history book you guys are the enemy's you were the ones stoning and killing us because we didn't believe in your god and called us blasphemers and gladly started the whole dark ages trying to snuff out scientific advancements. So.....yeah you are the enemy as long as you stand under the banner of ignorance.
Reread your history book and see how many christians were snuffed out by Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. Or go live in North Korea with Kim Il Jong. He's another great atheist.
All of the people you mentioned are heads of totalitarian governments. Their primary interest wasn't atheism, but pushing forward a cult of the system.
The crusades however were focused entirely on murdering people in the name of god.
(February 13, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Lek Wrote: Reread your history book and see how many christians were snuffed out by Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. Or go live in North Korea with Kim Il Jong. He's another great atheist.
Read up on your history they never killed for atheism it was a misconception that whole thing about those leaders killing for atheism was made up by the religious and the church non were killed in the name of atheism at all seriously go look it up.
February 13, 2015 at 8:48 pm (This post was last modified: February 13, 2015 at 8:48 pm by Lek.)
(February 13, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: All of the people you mentioned are heads of totalitarian governments. Their primary interest wasn't atheism, but pushing forward a cult of the system.
The crusades however were focused entirely on murdering people in the name of god.
And it's Kim Jong Un, not Kim Il Jong.
I always thought that murder was murder; and evil people murder. One murders in the name of God, another in the name of government, and another just because he feels like it. Is one worse than the other? And by the way, I didn't say they killed for atheism.
(February 13, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: All of the people you mentioned are heads of totalitarian governments. Their primary interest wasn't atheism, but pushing forward a cult of the system.
The crusades however were focused entirely on murdering people in the name of god.
And it's Kim Jong Un, not Kim Il Jong.
I always thought that murder was murder; and evil people murder. One murders in the name of God, another in the name of government, and another just because he feels like it. Is one worse than the other?
No. Murder is murder. But that wasn't the point. I meant to clarify that the people you mentioned killed in the name of a system, not atheism, since you mentioned them in a response to dyresand saying Christians used to kill people in the name of god.
(February 13, 2015 at 5:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: I feel the same way every time I pick up a book about evolution, the Bible however is concerned about a man's everlasting soul, not old bones scientist use to make up their own religion. Evolution deals with death, the Bible deals with eternal life.
GC
I'm betting you've never opened one of those books about evolution that you claim to have picked up.
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(February 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm)Norman Humann Wrote:
(February 13, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Lek Wrote: I always thought that murder was murder; and evil people murder. One murders in the name of God, another in the name of government, and another just because he feels like it. Is one worse than the other?
No. Murder is murder. But that wasn't the point. I meant to clarify that the people you mentioned killed in the name of a system, not atheism, since you mentioned them in a response to dyresand saying Christians used to kill people in the name of god.
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