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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:45 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:38 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: So... God commanded you? I thought he was all about free will...
Free will is an illusion, nor is the idea or term presented/used anywhere in the Bible. We have free choice, but His will is always accomplished, no matter what.
For example, your will might be to move to another city in a few months, but if God plans otherwise, then it will be impossible to accomplish. Something will prevent it.
And if God created evil, which He did, and if He uses all evil for good, which He does, then even those who are deliberately evil will still serve Him. When God is involved, even disobedience serves His purposes.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:46 pm
*Blinks*
So, even when God does evil things, he's actually doing good things? This guy just can't fucking lose can he.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:48 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:46 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: *Blinks*
So, even when God does evil things, he's actually doing good things? This guy just can't fucking lose can he.
Correct. If He ever lost, He'd be a pretty pathetic excuse for God, wouldn't He?
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:49 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:45 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: And if God created evil, which He did, and if He uses all evil for good, which He does, then even those who are deliberately evil will still serve Him. When God is involved, even disobedience serves His purposes.
The delusion is strong in this one.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:50 pm
So God's will is always accomplished.
Even evil things are part of his plan.
Therefore Hitler's holocaust was planned to have happened beforehand by God, and it's actually a good thing, even if we can't see how?
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:57 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:50 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So God's will is always accomplished.
Even evil things are part of his plan.
Therefore Hitler's holocaust was planned to have happened beforehand by God, and it's actually a good thing, even if we can't see how?
Certainly it was, and it wouldn't be the first time God nearly annihilated His people. Israel sinned, therefore Israel was punished, but a remnant was spared, as prophesied, and out of the ashes of the Holocaust the nation was reborn. Good from evil.
Yes, it seems harsh, but the wrath of God is no joke.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:58 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:45 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: (March 10, 2015 at 3:38 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: So... God commanded you? I thought he was all about free will...
Free will is an illusion, nor is the idea or term presented/used anywhere in the Bible. We have free choice, but His will is always accomplished, no matter what.
For example, your will might be to move to another city in a few months, but if God plans otherwise, then it will be impossible to accomplish. Something will prevent it.
And if God created evil, which He did, and if He uses all evil for good, which He does, then even those who are deliberately evil will still serve Him. When God is involved, even disobedience serves His purposes.
OK. So that means it was God's will Ted Bundy did his thing... and Jim Bakker... and the Spanish Inquisition... and rape, murder, torture... all God's things. And all of this in reply to a thread entitled, "Christians, Prove Your God Is Good".
Riiiiiiight.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 3:58 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:57 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Yes, it seems harsh, but the wrath of God is no joke.
That is not a loving god worthy of worship.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 4:00 pm
(March 10, 2015 at 3:57 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: (March 10, 2015 at 3:50 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So God's will is always accomplished.
Even evil things are part of his plan.
Therefore Hitler's holocaust was planned to have happened beforehand by God, and it's actually a good thing, even if we can't see how?
Certainly it was, and it wouldn't be the first time God nearly annihilated His people. Israel sinned, therefore Israel was punished, but a remnant was spared, as prophesied, and out of the ashes of the Holocaust the nation was reborn. Good from evil.
Yes, it seems harsh, but the wrath of God is no joke.
Welp, Drich approves of Slavery, Prof looks forward to the apocalypse, but I've never yet heard a theist say that the Holocaust was a good thing, until now.
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RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 10, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Jesus Christ... I'm out of words.
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