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Why I'm Still a Christian
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It's just word salad. Thanks for the attempt, though.
O__O Rexbeccarox is feisty these last few days.
(February 28, 2015 at 3:25 pm)Losty Wrote:(February 28, 2015 at 3:22 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: L'il bit. I'm trying to put a lid on it. Thanks! Don't tell the other mods, but I secretly liked that one too. Oh... wait. RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
February 28, 2015 at 3:43 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2015 at 3:45 pm by Lek.)
(February 28, 2015 at 12:50 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Lek, how can you say the Bible is "totally reliable" when we know stories such as Adam and Eve, the Flood and and Exodus didn't happen *in any way* as described in the Bible. Stories are written in many ways for various purposes to relate a truth to the intended audiences. Take the creation story. Just because I don't believe that the earth was created in six literal days doesn't mean I miss the meaning of the story, which teaches that the one true God is the creator of all the universe. This is opposed to the creation myths that were circulated throughout the world by the pagan believers at the time. The flood was probably local and encompassed the whole "world" of the readers at that time. Revelation, the last book of the bible, is written in very non-literal apocalyptic language and images, to portray literal events. Quote:Jesus seemed to believe all three of these stories were literal truth. How do you explain that? Plot holes galore. Jesus never stated that he believed that all the science and historical events were literally true. He referred to Adam as the first man and spoke of Moses and the prophets as real live persons., which they are. If I was trying to bring out the lesson of the story of the "three little pigs", I might say "the third pig was smart to build his house out of brick". Even though I'm not referring to a literal historical event, I'm speaking in words that sound like that. I'm presenting the truth of the story to my listeners. Quote:Lastly, several of us have asked, but I might have missed your response: how do you reconcile evolution with original sin? Since the sin of Adam, we have all inherited a tendency to sin. Adam and Eve were the first man and woman. When a fetus develops in the womb, it develops pretty much like any other mammal. This is a process that has come about as a result of evolution. I believe that is the way God intended it to happen. What separates humans from every other creature on earth is that we are made in the image of God. This image is reflected in our souls, and we are the only creatures to be able to possess everlasting life. This soul doesn't come about as a result of natural evolution, but rather as a special creation of God, given directly to us by God. I don't claim to know exactly when and how God created Adam and Eve, but they were the first humanoids to be created in the image of God. They were given eternal life in the image of God and lost it due to their disobedience to him. All other humans from that point forward were born with a God given soul, but a propensity to sin. It's just a thought, but this event could have taken place 6,000 to 8,000 years ago. It seems that up to that time, there was very slow development in humanoids and then an explosion of development after that time in history. While all other creatures go on pretty much as always, man has gone on to accomplish greater and greater things. We are light years different than any other creature on earth and the gap continues to widen.
If you were born in an Islamic country, you would almost certainly be a Muslim, saying all these exact things about how Islam is absolutely totally true and Christianity is false. Does that bother you?
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (February 28, 2015 at 4:09 pm)robvalue Wrote: If you were born in an Islamic country, you would almost certainly be a Muslim, saying all these exact things about how Islam is absolutely totally true and Christianity is false. Does that bother you? Yeah. I have thought about that and about all the other religions in the world. But none of them have the continuing revelation through different authors over many centuries that christianity has. Also, neither Mohammad nor any of the other instituters of other faiths have claimed to be God in the flesh or have risen from the dead. I view all those who are searching for God as searching for the same God, of which there is only one. That doesn't mean that I think all religions are equal paths to God, or even that their vision of who he is the same, but rather they contain some elements of truth. I believe that if a person is truly searching for God and he is of a non-christian religion, but has not had the opportunity to know of Christ, then God will judge him based on his heart. But if anyone knows of Christ and rejects him for the "god" of another faith, then he doesn't have salvation. (February 28, 2015 at 4:45 pm)Lek Wrote: But none of them have the continuing revelation through different authors over many centuries that christianity has.What? Christianity claims and reinterprets the holy books of the Jews. Islam does the same for Jewish and Christian works but cites human corruption. Mormonism does the same thing. There's nothing unique there. The idea of God having offspring, half-mortal and half-divine, a hero who suffers and then triumphs, rising from the dead, is almost as old as the invention of writing.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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