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Why I never was a Christian in the first place
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Why I never was a Christian in the first place
So let me see if I got this straight.

You believe that God sent himself down to earth to become his own son so that he could sacrifice himself to appease his own wrath because it was the only way that he could convince himself to forgive us for being such sinful beings, because blood sacrifice makes everything better because...

Well, that part is never explained... but that's not the point. The point is we're sinful beings in need of a savior. The reason we're sinful beings is because an ancestor of mine ate a magic fruit after speaking with a talking snake and that brought "sin" into the world because...

Well, that part isn't explained either... but that's not the point. The point is we should admit we're sinners worthy of Hell because people should be punished for the crimes of their ancestors because...

Well, that part is a little outdated, isn't it... but that's not the point. The point is that Jesus loves you. He loves you so much. And if you don't accept him as your lord he'll torture you for all eternity.

Oh dear, that sounds less like love and more like an abusive spouse, doesn't it? Well, that's not the point. The point is that Jesus demands worship like a megalomaniac and yet shyly hides behind a curtain instead of taking center stage like such a personality would be expected to. It's almost like some people just made up these rules to suit their agenda to gain more followers with false promises about an afterlife that can't be verified.

But I shouldn't believe that because the Bible tells me it's all true. This same book tells me the universe operates according to a god that isn't at all subtle or shy. Turn nearly any page and you read about magic, angels and overt displays of divine power that can't be mistaken for natural occurrence or coincidence. And yet when you put the book down, you see a natural universe governed by predictable laws and best understood by science and reason.

And then this same science tells me that we were not poofed into existence in some magic garden 6,000 years ago but evolved from simpler life forms. Some Christians accept science and say Genesis is just a metaphor. But if Genesis is a metaphor, when did "the fall" happen? And if there was no "fall", there was nothing for Jesus to save us from. Christianity unravels, such as it ever held together in the first place, either way.

It amazes me that anyone EVER believed this story, never mind in today.

And would someone please explain to me why love becomes evil when the body parts are similar?
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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
Worship (large)
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
"Love" is evil because it's fun. Joy is forbidden.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#4
RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
Fish in a barrel, yeah.

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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
(February 28, 2015 at 3:06 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: And would someone please explain to me why love becomes evil when the body parts are similar?

It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!

This appears to be the answer to that.
It's certainly the most quoted reason.

By the way,I would love to hear the Eden story told with Steve just hanging around in the background.

"Hey Steve"
"Sup Eve, Adam"

Comedy gold.



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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
(February 28, 2015 at 5:36 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(February 28, 2015 at 3:06 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: And would someone please explain to me why love becomes evil when the body parts are similar?

It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!
[...]

Actually - it was Adam, Eve and a whole lot of - apparently benevolent - animals, with conveniently placed orifices. Therefore bestiality must be "A-OK" in God's book...

And if we are to believe Genesis 2:20-23 - Eve was an afterthought. So originally God intended Adam to rely entirely on masturbation and/or bestiality. And if he did not have a sexual instinct at all - what were the testicles intended to be? A cat's toy?
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
(February 28, 2015 at 5:36 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: By the way,I would love to hear the Eden story told with Steve just hanging around in the background.

"Hey Steve"
"Sup Eve, Adam"

Comedy gold.



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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
It is ludicrous and the weirdest thing is that at one time I considered it beautiful just like Christians do.

The way Christians explain away the existence of evil when god is supposed to be pure good is equally crazy.
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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
I was never a Christian in the first place because Christianity isn't compatible with the most fundamental values I hold. My mom taught me a few things about Jesus, but she also taught me important values that exist regardless of religion. Her teachings ended up making me a non-Christian.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Why I never was a Christian in the first place
Quote:It amazes me that anyone EVER believed this story, never mind in today.


You have to evaluate it against the overwhelming stupidity and gullibility of jesus freaks to begin with, D-P.

Biggest bunch of assholes going....right next to the allah freaks.
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