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Prove god exists.
RE: Prove god exists.
Does that mean every other god that a holy book speaks of must be true too?
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Prove god exists.
(March 30, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Does that mean every other god that a holy book speaks of must be true too?

Yes.

The afterlife is packed with gods and split along sectarian lines.
Dying to live, living to die.
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(March 3, 2015 at 11:44 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Really not a fan of these kinds of threads. There's nothing being discussed, it's just a circlejerk of 'look how dumb the religious people are, har har har'. The OP isn't trying to have a discussion, it's just two lines of nothing.

Agreed. Seems more like something that should be a post in a thread instead of a thread itself.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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(March 3, 2015 at 10:42 am)dyresand Wrote: Using the scientific method try and prove god exists.
If you can do you realize how much money you can make by doing that.

If my faith were flimsy enough to require apologetics...

I don't because faith is, as our sacred scripture puts it:

Quote:The Wholly Babble:
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.


Now what is meant by "see" is not what can be literally detected by eyesight (as invisible things like air have demonstrable effects) but is a reference to what we can prove. So faith is wishing ssomething to be true and believing so with confidence even though we have no reason to. It's belief in what we wish to be true without evidence and against all evidence.

So if you require apologetics to bolster your faith then you've kind of missed the point.

But if my faith were flimsy enough to require apologetics, I might reference a few of William Lame Craig's gems.

First, there's the Moral Argument:

Step 1: Arbitrarily define God as essential for objective morals to exist, even though "objective" by definition means "free from anyone's opinions or values" and therefore would preclude any being's opinions or values, however wise or powerful they might be, from establishing them.
Step 2: Arbitrarily assert, just as a matter of fact as if stating a self-evident axiom, that objective morals exist.
Step 3: Therefore, Jesus, because when we say "God", I mean, who else?

Then there's Transcendental Argument:
Step 1: Without God, we couldn't account for the laws of logic, because Argument from Incredulity.
Step 2: Logic exists, though some use it better than others.
Step 3: Therefore, Jesus! Not Allah, not Vishnu, not the FSM but Jesus!

But personally, I like this argument:
Step 1: Brrrring fnorb zeeep dong frrruuupp quanarrrg zoooooop
Step 2: No one has ever disproved step 1.
Step 3: Therefore, Jesus!

GLORY!
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church

™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. 

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Step 4: profit
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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(March 30, 2015 at 10:29 pm)Losty Wrote: Step 4: profit

Side benefit to being a prophet. 
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church

™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. 

And for the lovers of Poe, here's your winking smiley:  Wink
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(March 30, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(March 30, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Does that mean every other god that a holy book speaks of must be true too?

Yes.

The afterlife is packed with gods and split along sectarian lines.

Just imagine the heavenly sectarian wars.

(March 30, 2015 at 10:21 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: [quote='dyresand' pid='889538' dateline='1425393743']
Using the scientific method try and prove god exists.
If you can do you realize how much money you can make by doing that.

If my faith were flimsy enough to require apologetics...
Quote:[quote='YahwehIsTheWay' pid='911078' dateline='1427768466']
So faith is wishing ssomething to be true and believing so with confidence even though we have no reason to. It's belief in what we wish to be true without evidence and against all evidence.

According to your own statements, faith is believe in something for no reason and sometimes against reason. We are in agreement. I just prefer to be a reasonable person than an gullible arrogant one.
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Look what the cat dragged in, it's my favourite apologetic Big Grin

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